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Okay, hold on!

The original azov wolfsangel insignia was a Nazi dogwhistle (you agreed with this!), but a little churn and a change of management and the exact same name and insignia are somehow fine?

How does that work?

Okay, two different theys, the most recent being the ukranian government, whose decision to keep the name and logo you just can’t fathom.

Let me give a little insight into their reasoning: they want to keep the Nazi regiment.

If you bought a Nazi bar that had to close down because of all the Nazis and you wanted to reopen it as a bar, but without all the Nazis, would you keep the old name and leave the logo the same?

No, of course you wouldn’t. You’d change the name, clean house, completely renovate, change the menu, stop serving jagermiester and even take a strong anti fascist line.

Since the ukranian government didn’t do that it’s obvious they want to keep running the Nazi bar on the dl.

Those other regiments aren’t on the other side of the equation because there is no equation. We’re not talking about the whole of semiotics throughout the history of europe, we’re talking about a specific nationalist right wing militia that uses Nazi symbols and ideas.

They chose a symbol to dogwhistle to everyone that they’re Nazis. Now they say they’re not Nazis but they kept the symbol that they chose to low key tell everyone me they’re Nazis.

Do you know what that means? it means they’re still nazis

This isn’t hard to understand. Theres no nuance here. They use the nazi markings knowing they’re nazi markings. They’re Nazis.

My problem is that we’re not talking about this in a vacuum. We aren’t having a nice little hypothetical conversation about weather or not you can judge the town of burgweldel for having a wolfsangel on their town coat of arms.

We are talking about people joining a right wing nationalist militia using the wolfsangel. In the context of this conversation it is unambiguously a Nazi dogwhistle and indefensible, unless you want to defend Nazis. Do you want to defend Nazis?

oh no, not germanic cultutre appropriated by the nazis and wideley seen as dogwhistles! how will the world move on?

your'e absolutely right that the wolfsangel is like the number 88. maybe someone with it in a username or email was born or married that year. but when they're joining a nationalist right wing militia the number 88 means they're a nazi

we're not talking about random people on the street with tee shirts that have wolfsangels on em (btw they'd be nazis too). we're talking about people joining a famously right wing, nationalist militia in a country with a long history of nazism. they didn't pick those symbols out because they just love interesting history!

when people choose symbols associated with nazis now they're nazis. i'm sorry, that's just reality.

Stop trying to rehabilitate the wolfsangel. If your town had it for three centuries then maybe that’s not nazi symbolism. If you join a nationalist right wing regiment and get it tattooed on yourself, that’s Nazi symbolism.

Think about it like the swastika. If someone is choosing it now, in Europe, in a right wing military organization, they’re nazis, not fans of Indian symbols and culture. Do you know how I can tell?

I’m with you especially on that last part. My most insane privately racist lug-mate called it modding or customization. Even in the windows shell hacking scene no one described it like that.

I do like using “tuning” though, fond memories of import tuner magazine and my dearly departed first car and first computer.

Couple hundred gigs. Everything else is on the server.

Because those laptops suck.

Thinkpads are good and cheap. If someone has a bunch of money to spend on a computer they buy a Mac.

A holosun aimpoint mashup brings to mind automatic1111 versions of guns.

Eh, none of this is really addressing the fundamentals of getting comfortable figuring out how to do what you wanna do, which is what in my experience leads to people seeing command line use as magic incantations.

Like, if you’re on windows you know how to figure out how to do what you wanna do, right click a file, look for entries in the context menu, look at the properties, open with, etc.

This works because people fundamentally understand the metaphor behind the operating system.

If you’re in bash and don’t know how to do what you wanna do you don’t need any of this fancy zoomer shit, just use “which”, “man”, whatever your package manager offers and the other commands that had big oriley books written about em.

People need to develop the command line equivalent of the “click around and see if you learn anything” skills.

E: I gave the linked article another read and it really is about setting up a production environment in the command line and not about getting people comfortable with the command line at all.

Like, if someone needs to cut down a tree in their front yard they don’t need to know how to operate a felller-buncher, they need to know how to use an axe handle to judge where the tree will fall and what it will fall on.

That person says they were on world and switched to ee. They also say they were driven back to Reddit by hexbear. World preemptively defederated hexbear before any user interactions happened and ee and hexbear were federated for a day before this thread.

So one day of hexbear on ee drove this poster back to Reddit. Or they’re lying about the experience on world.