yeahiknow3

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’m against the death penalty, so I’m not sure what “moral position” of mine you’re attacking exactly. Our only point of friction so far has been over the use basic logic when formulating strong opinions.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Here, let me help you.

  1. Intending to kill a person is always wrong.
  2. The death penalty involves intending to kill a person.
  3. Therefore, the death penalty is always wrong.

This argument is valid. It is not sound.

I’m actually against the death penalty. But I am also against forming strongly held beliefs for no reason and occasionally stumbling on the correct conclusion by accident.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -2 points 2 days ago

I’m not vegan, by the way. I just find hypocrisy kind of gross.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)
  1. Killing innocent people is wrong.
  2. The death penalty has a chance of killing innocent people.
  3. Therefore, the death penalty is wrong.

Versus:

  1. Killing innocent people is wrong.
  2. Driving a car has a chance of killing innocent people.
  3. Therefore, driving a car is wrong.

Clearly, this argument is not sound. You’ll need to come up with another.

For a more nuanced discussion on this topic I’d recommend a modern Ethics textbook, such as Shafer-Landau’s Living Ethics, which breaks down arguments over the death penalty to their syllogistic form.

EDIT: more examples.

  1. Killing innocent people is wrong.
  2. Practicing medicine has a well known chance of killing innocent people.
  3. Therefore, practicing medicine is wrong.

Etcetera

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The idea that minorities automatically become religious conservative zealots because of racism is an insult and it’s racist as fuck.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Language is only a tiny part of integration. Authoritarian and conservative ideology is a much bigger issue.

Daily reminder that religion is a monstrous evil.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

???? You’re so far off topic I don’t even know if you’re replying to the right comment.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I’m trying to help meat eaters out of their dilemma. They murder innocent animals but complain about killing evil animals. They eat the former but not the latter.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)
  • Do you believe it can ever be moral to take an innocent person's life?

Absolutely not. But you’ll agree this guy is not innocent.

  • Do you believe that our judicial system has never wrongly convicted an innocent person and sentenced them to death?

That line of reasoning would be paralyzing. There’s a high chance that you’ll kill an innocent person while driving, but you’re still driving. I suppose the alternative is even worse.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

Also not veganism

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