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I'm not good at math, but people keep passing this chart around in reddit-logo

But I keep seeing people in the comments debating whether this is actually "impossible" or not, using stats terms I'm not familiar with. Also idk the source of this graph so maybe it's bs.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Because out of ballot surveys gave 70% of the votes to the opposition. Those surveys are nor perfect, but is pretty rare that they have a difference so big, unless the election or the survey was faked.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

Exit poll surveys are illegal in Venezuela and have never been practiced before this so I don't think we should put any stock in them - especially because the company performing them (Edison Research) literally works for the US government. Its main contracts are with Radio Free Europe/Asia and Voice of America, US State Department run propaganda news outlets.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago

As a general rule of thumb, if someone tells you the ghettos of a nation are rising up and demanding that the oil fields be privatized and given to the richest American, you can be extremely confident that they're full of shit.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's very easy to get such discrepancies when your paycheck depends on it. Just poll opposition stronghold sites and start saying things like "70% from our survey". That pollster's main clients are US State Department propagandists like Radio Free Europe.

Imagine saying Trump actually won 70% of the vote in 2020 because you only polled rural Texas, for example.

The same gang of imperialists and their lapdogs used exactly this logic to support the right wing coup in Bolivua, claiming it was statistically impossible for votes tallied later to swing so heavily for MAS. But any child familiar with what was happening could tell you that the later votes were from rural MAS strongholds and earlier votes included some urban right wing strongholds.

Boring, Common things spun into " troubling" results as early as possible using hidden and usually incompetent math.

Re: Venezuela in particular the official results haven't even been released and these media campaigns were already calling it illegitimate hours after the basic percentages were stated. This was in contrast to what the election observers were saying, which is that the election was conducted fairly and without widespread issues. Venezuela uses a much more auditable and open voting process than the US.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

So it's like when Trump wanted to stop the count because he was losing votes from mail-in ballots or whatever it was? That was hilarious.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the survey was faked

Oh come on, don't insult your own intelligence

The survey is probably real, but without having access to key data like sample size and who was surveyed

If you survey 10 people in an area where the opposition is stronger, and 7 people say they voted for the opposition, that's 70% - but certainly not a valid number to base a coup off of

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

The survey was conducted by a CIA affiliated group if that matters