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[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After reading this, i now understand less about socialism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This comic makes a ton of logical leaps, by which i mean that it assumes that the reader is already familiar with certain information and leaves it implied. More broadly, it seems to assume that the audience already agrees that communism is the best. I'm particularly annoyed at the second pannel describing a command economy in a very short and unconvincing way, as if the audience already knows and agrees.

I have a rudimentary knowledge of political taxonomy and this is very very confusing.

But you know what, at least it's written in plain language. A mistake that communists often make is using their vocabulary (alienation, ideology, bourgeoisie) as if everyone knows what it means, i'm glad this isn't the case here

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This comic makes a ton of logical leaps, by which i mean that it assumes that the reader is already familiar with certain information and leaves it implied. More broadly, it seems to assume that the audience already agrees that communism is the best. I'm particularly annoyed at the second pannel describing a command economy in a very short and unconvincing way, as if the audience already knows and agrees.

That's the purpose of building up dual power via leftist orgs, so that when Workers do sieze control, there are pre-existing structures. It's difficult to put all of theory into a comic.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

That’s the purpose of building up dual power via leftist orgs

Good example right there: i have less than no idea what this means. I'm more politicized than the average person, definitely way more than the average worker, but i have no idea what this means. There is honestly a pattern of communists being very immersed in theory to the point that they forget normies like me aren't on the same page and don't immediately get it.

It’s difficult to put all of theory into a comic

By god, don't. I'm not too sure if 'all of theory' is worth putting in a book, but it's definitely not worth putting in a comic.

I've been politically active for years without really knowing theory, all it takes is talking to people and a willingness to spend an afternoon cutting leaflets. It is my honest opinion that marxist theory is as relevant to real world activism as theology, and no less arcane.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If people who make things own them, who manages the "big picture" ideas? CEO pay tells me that requires the power of thousands of ~~peasants~~ workers.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Workers are perfectly good at self-organizing without them. "I'm the ideas guy" is stated by people who do little and should not be trusted.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

That's my point: no "ideas man" is worth thousands of real workers.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Elected officials and councils.