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[–] experbia@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

deprivatize the aerospace industry. imagine the boon to the American economy if these failing, debt-ridden, dysfunctional aerospace manufacturers and airlines were replaced by a massive jobs program with the goal of optimizing air travel safety, affordability, and access. we're a big country. we could massively benefit from an aeronautical empire that gives any person safe, enjoyable 30 dollar flights, coast to coast.

(edit, oops, forgot a prefix. wow)

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but only after we fix the rail system first.

[–] ouRKaoS 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Here me out:

What if the trains... Could fly...?

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I got you, fam: maglev

[–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Aviarail tickets

"Departing to Samara, please fasten your belts"

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Better yet, reduce reliance on domestic air travel by building a modern high-speed rail network

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

In my opinion, HSR is a supplement, not a replacement. Flying is still fast and in some cases easier to get to than rail.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

If any politician would run this on a platform I'd make a bingo game of the canned responses you'd see all over the "free thinker" side of social media.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

30 dollar flights anywhere means you can kiss the planet good-bye.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Cut the budget airlines dedicate to lobbying against HSR and you might get better results

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No. If flights are dirt cheap, people will kill this planet using them. It's not about the price, it's about the amount (& type) of energy used to accomplish transportation.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If flights are dirt cheap

HSR is generally more convenient and less expensive than air travel, thanks to the ability to run trains directly out of the center of major cities while airports are flung to the outskirts. If you've got the choice between a $30 plane + hours of driving and TSA and boarding and landing, or a straight shot to your train station and then $30 to pop on the next one that's scheduled to leave, its an easy choice.

it’s about the amount (& type) of energy used to accomplish transportation.

Its also about speed and convenience. We've made train travel painfully obtuse. Other countries don't do it this way, so people spend far less time in the air.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

My apologies, when you referred to HSR, especially considering the context of Boeing, my brain deciphered that as "health & safety regulations". I take it you are talking about a train system operator / railway network? And yes, train network in the US sucks compared to Europe, if I may say so as a European. But also here (Germany), it is painfully expensive - and I want to lynch some responsible politicians for making train tickets more expensive than regular flights for even short distances...