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[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The hypesters and grifters do not prevent AI from being used for truly valuable things even now. In fact medical uses will be one of those things that WILL keep AI from just fading away.

Just look at those marketing wankers as a cherry on the top that you didn't want or need.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People just need to understand that the true medical uses are as tools for physicians, not "replacements" for physicians.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the vast majority of people understand that already. They don't understand just what all those gadgets are for anyway. Medicine is largely a ''blackbox" or magical process anyway.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are way too many techbros trying to push the idea of turning chat gpt into a physician replacement. After it "passed" the board exams, they immediately started hollering about how physicians are outdated and too expensive and we can just replace them with AI. What that ignores is the fact that the board exam is multiple choice and a massive portion of medical student evaluation is on the "art" side of medicine that involves taking the history and performing the physical exam that the question stem provides for the multiple choice questions.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And it has gone exactly nowhere either hasn't it. Nor do those techbros want the legal and moral responsibilities that come with an actual licence to pass the boards.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

I think there are some techbros out there with sleazy legal counsel that promises they can drench the thing in enough terms and conditions to relieve themselves of liability, similar to the way that WebMD does. Also, with healthcare access the way it is in America, there are plenty of people who will skim right past the disclaimer telling them to go see a real healthcare provider and just trust the "AI". Additionally, there's enough slimy NP professional groups pushing for unsupervised practice that they could just sign on their NP licenses for prescriptions, and the malpractice laws currently in place would be difficult to enforce depending on outcomes and jurisdictions.

This doesn't get into the sowing of discord and discontent with physicians that is happening even without these products existing in the first place. Even the claims that an AI could potentially, maybe, someday sorta-kinda replace physicians makes people distrust and dislike physicians now.

Separately, I have some gullible classmates in medical school that I worry about quite a lot, because they've bought into the line that chat GPT passed the boards, so they take its' hallucinations as gospel and argue with our professor's explanations as to why the hallucination is wrong and the correct answer on a test is correct. I was not shy about admonishing them and forcefully explaining how these "generative AIs" are little more than glorified text predictors, but the allure of easy answers without having to dig for them and understand complex underlying principles is very alluring, so I don't know if I actually got through to him or not.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The hypesters and grifters do not prevent AI from being used for truly valuable things even now.

I mean, yeah, except that the unnecessary applications are all the corporations are paying anyone to do these days. When the hype flies around like this, the C-suite starts trying to micromanage the product team's roadmap. Once it dies down, they let us get back to work.