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There was a ton of hippie theorizing at the time acid really hit big that it could revolutionize things if there was mass adoption because basically it makes you really silly and joyful, and unable to take anything seriously. I genuinely think that it was a threat of some sort, that the threat contributed to the need for a war on drugs.
That theorizing was what I was alluding to yeah, I just don't see people taking those ideas seriously any more. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but I've never believed in them really either. It didn't seem to me that psychedelics actually did a lot for people, politically anyhow, at the height of their mass use in the US, the hippies who were most into psychedelics by and large all sold out and reintegrated into mainstream society, and I'm not sure if they were, in large part, ever seriously leftist. If anything I've heard at least as compelling arguments that the CIA or whoever was pushing psychedelics to derail or undermine revolutionary movements somehow. Again not something I wholeheartedly believe, but it seems to have at least as much substance to it.
psychedelics took away my revolutionary spirit and gave me false consciousness for a long time. I think they can be enjoyed as a tool for self reflection, surely, but their usefulness is vastly overstated, and the delusions it can give you can lead very easily down the crunchy right path.
I used to love Tim Leary, nowadays I tend to take the perspective of the Black Panthers when he went to Algeria with them, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, I never felt like they took anything from me except maybe a reprieve from depression lol, but I'm not that into them, and I've definitely seen LSD do not great things for others, just taking it a lot as an escape from shitty conditions/relationships, but ultimately just keeping them in that place more than helping.