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"No you see, idiot, uneducated worker, the economy is doing great actually. Now go back to the your 3rd job's shift to barely make ends meet."

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Stick around in these threads long enough and someone will come and post statistical proof that how you feel is anecdotal and of absolutely no bearing on realty. So at what point do you stop caring about the "definition" of recession and realize that maybe it's not measured in a way that promotes a health society rather than just a healthy economy?

Record profits and millions uninsured. Record profits and crumbling infrastructure. Record profits and mass layoffs. Maybe it's fucked?

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Or just use a different word that means what you're trying to say. When you remove the meaning from words, it becomes harder to solve problems.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Who is removing the meaning? If anything i thought we were trying to define it better and maybe challenge the traditional meaning because i don't think it suits the current times. You are free to use a different word.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So your argument here... is that you're not trying to remove the meaning from a word.

You're just trying to change the traditional meaning and ask people who use the word correctly to use a new and different word.

You've given me a lot to think about, thank you.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe that correctly might be too traditional? If that's too much i can just stop. I don't wanna overload ya.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Actually rereading my content: What i meant was to say "well just a different word" in regards to the current situation if recession doesn't fit into the metrics of what a recession is. If you don't like recession being used than give people who feel like it's a recession a different word.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Full agree. Why not just say main street has been shit for decades and there isn't a recession? It's easy.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

That seems a lot more meaningful. GDP is going up, and most people are still feeling the crunch? That is a correctly identified issue that needs a solution.

If you do stuff that historically fixes a real recession, you're going to potentially make that problem worse.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Nah. Whatever word we use, some propagandist will argue its semantics rather than argue that people’s lives should actually be good enough to eat, be happy, be healthy, have a home and raise kids.