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[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A question is, if the concept of age can be applied to a pokemon, since evolution relies on other factors, independent from age.

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 10 points 3 months ago

Next time on "How to catch a Poké Predator"

"She said she was evolved! I thought she was evolved!"

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Assuming pokemon are classified as animals and are granted compatible rights, they wouldn't be able to consent.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you can answer this question for Pokemon in general, I think it would be species specific.

Meowth is clearly of human intelligence, for example. Hell, he's smarter than Jessie & James.

Then you have the extreme end, where Alakazam has an IQ of 5000. We're basically ants to them.

Not to mention pretty much every psychic pokemon in the anime can have proper conversations with humans using telepathy.

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But does intelligence grant them human rights? Since we still regard intelligent animals as animals.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 8 points 3 months ago

There isn't any animal that is even remotely comparable in intelligence to what we see Pokemon capable of, so it's not really fair to make that comparison.

Dolphins and Chimpanzees are widely considered the next most intelligent species after us, but they're still far below us. You can teach a Chimp basic sign language, but you still can't have a proper conversation with them, let alone come up with complex plans with them.

By comparison, Meowth is not only capable of all that, he's better at it than J&J; iirc, most of their plans that almost succeeded were his ideas. Plus he's extremely capable at subterfuge, considering he once successfully convinced Ash & Co. that he was done with Team Rocket and gained their trust, only for it to be yet another scheme. Not to mention his ability to operate highly complex machinery.

And mind you, there's zero indication that Team Rocket's Meowth is any more intelligent than any other Meowth, he's just vastly more ambitious. They very clearly show that his more human like tendencies are a conscious choice, not something inherent to him. Other Meowths could learn English, they just choose not to(and at least one thinks TR Meowth is weird for doing so).

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Since even the smartest Pokémon is one pokeball away from a life of permanent servitude and poke-battle, I'm going to say that their poke-rights situation isn't great.