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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know. Do we really need to replace another 8.2 billion people, does that line really need to go up?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, but we also don’t want that line to suddenly plummet either.

Think of it this way: birth rate of one is half replacement value and most developed countries are there. We’re already having half the children we need to stay level but it’s not obvious because of the larger generations still living. In 20 years, that half population will half yet again, one quarter the children to level off. Then those older generations age out, and you get larger generations replaced by multiple halvings. For example if you live three generations, then at the end of your life, the population is only 1/8 what it was. Obviously it won’t be this simple and many things could affect birthrate but I find this trend frightening for humanity’s future. We’re not talking lower population but facing the possibility of a crashing population

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The birthrate BS is already being used as reasons for controlling women. The only down fall is Religious nut bags and Republican assholes losing control over the other sex.

A better way of life automatically equals the natural number of children. There's no need for another 9 billion people. There is a very strong need of a better life for 8 billion of us.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There’s no need for another 9 billion people. There is a very strong need of a better life for 8 billion of us.

Agreed, but there are many possibilities for where this trend heads and when it levels out.

  • there’s no need for a chaotic, disrupted life for 5 billion of us
  • there’s no need for widespread societal collapse as we no longer have the population to afford the infrastructure we’ve built out
  • there’s no need to live in a dystopia of limitation with collapsing hope and vision, dying innovation and arts, ever constriction g, ever decreasing

If we try to tweak the birth rate starting now, we’re more likely to land at a sweet spot like “ a better life for 8 billion of us.”

And no, controlling women is not the way. Being evil always seems the faster and easier path, but where do you end up? Evil