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A bean is the seed of several plants in the family Fabaceae, which are used as vegetables for human or animal food. They can be cooked in many different ways, including boiling, frying, and baking, and are used in many traditional dishes throughout the world.

Terminology

The word "bean" and its Germanic cognates (e.g. German Bohne) have existed in common use in West Germanic languages since before the 12th century, referring to broad beans, chickpeas, and other pod-borne seeds. This was long before the New World genus Phaseolus was known in Europe. With the Columbian exchange of domestic plants between Europe and the Americas, use of the word was extended to pod-borne seeds of Phaseolus, such as the common bean and the runner bean, and the related genus Vigna. The term has long been applied generally to many other seeds of similar form, such as Old World soybeans, peas, other vetches, and lupins, and even to those with slighter resemblances, such as coffee beans, vanilla beans, castor beans, and cocoa beans. Thus the term "bean" in general usage can refer to a host of different species.

Cultivation

Unlike the closely related pea, beans are a summer crop that needs warm temperatures to grow. Legumes are capable of nitrogen fixation and hence need less fertiliser than most plants. Maturity is typically 55–60 days from planting to harvest. As the bean pods mature, they turn yellow and dry up, and the beans inside change from green to their mature colour that they have when fully ripe. Many beans are vines, as such the plants need external support, which may take the form of special "bean cages" or poles. Native Americans customarily grew them along with corn and squash (the so-called Three Sisters), with the tall cornstalks acting as support for the beans.

History

Beans were an important source of protein throughout Old and New World history, and still are today.

Beans are one of the longest-cultivated plants in history. Broad beans, also called fava beans, are in their wild state the size of a small fingernail, and were first gathered in Afghanistan and the Himalayan foothills. An early cultivated form were grown in Thailand from the early seventh millennium BCE, predating ceramics. Beans were deposited with the dead in ancient Egypt. Not until the second millennium BCE did cultivated, large-seeded broad beans appear in the Aegean region, Iberia, and transalpine Europe. In the Iliad (8th century BCE), there is a passing mention of beans and chickpeas cast on the threshing floor.

The oldest-known domesticated beans in the Americas were found in Guitarrero Cave, an archaeological site in Peru, and dated to around the second millennium BCE. Genetic analyses of the common bean Phaseolus show that it originated in Mesoamerica, and subsequently spread southward, along with maize and squash, traditional companion crops.

Most of the kinds of beans commonly eaten today are part of the genus Phaseolus, which originated in the Americas. The first European to encounter them was Christopher Columbus, while exploring what may have been the Bahamas, and saw them growing in fields. Five kinds of Phaseolus beans were domesticated by pre-Columbian peoples: common beans (P. vulgaris) grown from Chile to the northern part of what is now the United States; and lima and sieva beans (P. lunatus); as well as the less widely distributed teparies (P. acutifolius), scarlet runner beans (P. coccineus), and polyanthus beans.

One well-documented use of beans by pre-Columbian people as far north as the Atlantic seaboard is the "Three Sisters" method of companion plant cultivation: Many tribes would grow beans together with maize or "corn", and squash. The corn would not be planted in rows as is done by European agriculture, but in a checkerboard/hex fashion across a field, in separate patches of one to six stalks each. Beans would be planted around the base of the developing stalks, and would vine their way up as the stalks grew. All American beans at that time were vine plants; "bush beans" were cultivated more recently. The cornstalks would work as a trellis for the bean plants, and the beans would provide much-needed nitrogen for the corn. Squash would be planted in the spaces between the patches of corn in the field. They would be provided slight shelter from the sun by the corn, would shade the soil and reduce evaporation, and would deter many animals from attacking the corn and beans because their coarse, hairy vines and broad, stiff leaves are difficult or uncomfortable for animals such as deer and raccoons to walk through, crows to land on, and are a deterrent to other animals as well.

Beans were cultivated across Chile in Pre-Hispanic times, likely as far south as ChiloΓ© Archipelago.

Dry beans come from both Old World varieties of broad beans (fava beans) and New World varieties (kidney, black, cranberry, pinto, navy/haricot).

Lectins

Lectins are defined as proteins that bind to carbohydrates. The same features that lectins use to defend plants in nature may cause problems during human digestion. They resist being broken down in the gut and are stable in acidic environments, features that protect lectin-containing plants in nature.

They are found in all plants, but raw legumes (beans, lentils, peas, soybeans, peanuts) and whole grains like wheat contain the highest amounts of lectins

Cooking, especially with wet high-heat methods like boiling or stewing, or soaking in water for several hours, can inactivate most lectins. Lectins are water-soluble and typically found on the outer surface of a food, so exposure to water removes them.

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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Often I wish my posts and replies got more engagement (I love having interesting conversations with you folks), but then I go do what I'm doing now, posting at a terrible time for engagement (not many people online, as we don't have a huge number of non-Americans, and the Americans are sleeping, like I usually would be)

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I get a dopamine hit when I see the notifications in my inbox. However I am based in Ireland and have to reserve my best posts for night time for maximum dopamine

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Boom, dopamine hit for you.

I'm a bit split, on one hand I want big numbers and lots of replies, but on the other hand I want to reply to other people and end up with no unreads.

How's Ireland treating you? I don't think I've ever been there

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Woohoo notifications in my inbox!

Ireland is uh kinda not so good for young people at the moment. It never was but it also is not now. All my friends are moving abroad and I don't know what I want to do with my life

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, that's a bit unfortunate. Where are your friends moving to?

I see you've posted a bit about your college life, is the degree not something that'll push you forward in life?

I'd give you advice, but I'm not quite sure what advice I can give in this situation.

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

My friends are mostly going to Europe and America. A lot of them have already finished college, or are going on to do a masters.

shrug-outta-hecks I honestly have no idea what I'm going to do with my degree. It's in politics but I have realized I don't actually want to work in politics, at least not yet. I wouldn't mind working in academia but that would require a lot more investment. The only thing I can think is to work as a writer for a paper or something. I definitely don't want to work for the capitalist state.

I'm considering doing a master's just because I might know what I want to do when I'm finished that. Tbh I just don't know what I want to do with my life, and i wish i had more time to figure it out.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm here. I will make an effort to be more engaging.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ooh, neat! Whereabouts are you? Some more interesting part of the world? (If I remember right, you at one point posted something about not being in the northern hemisphere)

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm in ausrtralia. Nothing that interesting. Its just another american puppet.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, y'all even got couped by the US back in '75. Why are so many amazing posters Australian? Dirt_Owl, practically a local celebrity, is also Australian (if I remember right).

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I get anxious when people reply because I want engagement but I also don't know if it's necessary or appropriate to respond to everyone individually, and if I can say anything worth their time. So, idk. Have a notif all the swme

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I try to engage whenever I can (and I'll upvote basically anyone that replies to me, as long as they're civil and not excessively liberal/reactionary). Really the online reason I don't engage with a reply is if a) it's a bot. they make up a lot of my unread, I should probably clean it up b) we had a conversation, but now new information is coming out of our talking c) thread gets locked or deleted (happens a lot with megas and controversial topics) or lastly d) I forget to reply, this is especially a problem if I accidentally press the clear all unreads button (it's happened a few times, I'm sorry to all those people).

Also, I used to have that sort of anxiety, but just posting a lot and getting neat replies basically acted like exposure therapy to me (a few people IRL have said I seem like I have social anxiety, which is a bit interesting because I'm often the one shepherding around my friends with diagnosed social anxiety. I don't think I act like them? But I guess things can look different from the outside, compared to from insides).

So, here's a notification to get exposed to. Feel free to reply with whatever is on the top of your mind, doesn't really even have to be related to what I've talked about. Hearing from Hexbears is interesting.

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, I used to have that sort of anxiety, but just posting a lot and getting neat replies basically acted like exposure therapy to me

Tyty. I've basically lurked most websites except for an aquarium forum me and my brother posted on aaaaages ago, and a tf2 forum during uni lol. Made a couple accounts here over a year ago now and have been posting/commenting since. I think the whole anxiety thing isn't that it goes away, more that it becomes contextualised/manageable. Plus, learning about other users' interests and personalities makes it a lot easier to know who's up for a chat/who prefers dumping v drip feed/who's prickly. It's kinda ironic that I don't personally expect a reply to any of my own comments, but I feel compelled to at least leave a token 'lmao' or emoji to others', when in all probability they also probably don't expect responses unless they ask clear questions.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I too was a big time lurker for a while. Especially traditional social media, I've never posted there (well, I technically operated the social media of a few groups a while ago, but that was a lot more just posting stuff other people had written, because I'm "good with tech", and some groups I've been a part of have had quite a few older folks. It was at the very least not really 'me' posting. I think that fueled the worries about other people's replies, because if something I posted wasn't taken well, it would affect a lot more than me). I read a lot of news (and I still do), and articles from reputable sources often don't have comment boxes, so I wasn't posting much there either.

The big thing for me, that got me into internet posting, was being an active IRC user. There, I was putting my textual works out into the world, though IRC is a lot more ephemeral, a lot of places won't store logs forever (or sometimes at all). Before that, I was a poster like (that one emoji of the guy hammering the poster into place, emoji picker bugged out on me). I wrote letters (something I still occasionally do), I put up posters IRL, and I gave little soapbox speeches. Not posting in the modern sense, but I was exercising my posting powers, my vocabulary, my unique opinions and writing style. Then, after IRC (while, more concurrent with my IRC posting, irssi is still often open), after my IRL posting, I started to get more into forums, and the email systems that some political orgs used to communicate over distance (some email systems were good, some were bad, a lot orgs have a patchy volunteer driving infrastructure setup, so technical debt piled up). The forums were mostly obscure and tech focused, a number of them have shut down with there only being partial backups. Some are still up, but inactive and dead. There were a lot of familiar names between those forums, because there was once a time when the internet felt small. I was still a bit of a lurker, but I was finding my footing and becoming more confident in my knowledge, and the reliability of the answers I gave. I knew enough that I could ask tough questions, but not enough that I could reply properly to others tough questions.

Then, in the late 2000's to early 2010's, a few big things happened. A number of forums popped up, which I participated in, and their community gradually shifted over to some forums I still frequent to this day. Also, Discourse became a thing in 2013, and so I ended up being quite active on a large number of discourse instances (most Discourse instances are focused on a particle tech project, but they're used a number of other places too).

However, basically all of this posting was about organization, technology discussions, and such, rather than the talking about "me" that's common in a lot of the big social media sites. I did post a bit about myself in the more private parts of the internet, like messaging with friends, but not really publicly. But then I found lemmy.ml, before the Reddit exodus, and made an account (I just lurked there for a long time, I don't think that account even has any comments or posts). Then, nearly a year ago at this point, I made the hop over from the lurking .ml to the active poster on Hexbear, and I've been posting here ever since.

(I rewrote this a few times, I wasn't sure if it was a good idea to post the specific names of forums and the like, and ultimately I decided to keep the specifics a secret)

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Another dilemma. I like it when number goes up, but when I reply to people that number goes down. Guess I just gotta post so hard that it takes me forever to get throught replies.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Often I wish my posts and replies got more engagement

Me saying "I showed you my weird inscruitable bullshit pls respond" to the megathreads on hexbear

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's basically what this mega's for! The more weird inscrutable bullshit, the better Hexbear becomes.

Progress doesn't come from nowhere, it comes from us discovering the curiosities of the world. It doesn't need to make sense to be enjoyable, or a learning experience.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Posting weird is kinda scary what if people think I said cringe :| when u post n it doest get votes OR replies

I agree wholeheartedly though holy shit. The 'weird' and curious aspects of the world and other people I enjoy greatly, the stuff I would have never considered. The bearsite rocks for that.