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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gun ownership is a right protected under the 2nd amendment. If cars had been around during the revolutionary war then perhaps there would have been an amendment as well. But as it is cars can be regulated to a larger degree as they are not a protected right under our constitution.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Constitution doesn't say anything about banning regulations on guns.

Almost calls for it by saying we need to make sure they're well maintained

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If it is not stated in the constitution then the right falls to the states. Fortunately gun rights are guaranteed for both state militias and citizens under 2A in the constitution.

2nd Amendment: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They also wanted the document to continuously be updated.

Turns out shit changes between flintlock guns to what we have now

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They did indeed leave a mechanism to update the constitution. You are free to propose an amendment and if the majority of the country agrees, it can supersede an existing amendment.

The only thing that has changed are unconstitutional laws infringing upon our rights.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Each generation is as independent as the one preceding, as that was of all which had gone before. It has then, like them, a right to choose for itself the form of government it believes most promotive of its own happiness; consequently, to accommodate to the circumstances in which it finds itself, that received from its predecessors; and it is for the peace and good of mankind, that a solemn opportunity of doing this every nineteen or twenty years, should be provided by the constitution; so that it may be handed on, with periodical repairs, from generation to generation, to the end of time, if anything human can so long endure.

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/jefferson-memorial-education-each-new-generation.htm

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nice quote, I’m glad you agree with me that change is good and that there is a mechanism to change the constitution. It is of course called an amendment.

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 months ago

No it means replacement not amending. Amending is just addition not updating.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They also attempted to draft a version of the Second Amendment that contained the rights you think it contains, and it was unanimously a rejected at the constitutional convention in Philadelphia. Perhaps you could look to the constitutions of the original colonies to see if any of them thought that an individual right to bear arms was so essential, but you will find that not a single one of them had an individual right.

You will not also not find a single original work in the English language in which the phrase bear arms is used in any context outside of a military one, until dumbasses started perverting that phrase fifty odd years after the Constitution was written.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arms: weapons

Militia: in a different clause. If you paid attention in 1st grade English, you'd know better

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 months ago

Figured insults wouldn't happen until later.

Funny how it changed to be anyone instead of militia, in the beginning of your shall not be infringed, once we also started to stop caring about strength of the nation in favor of individuals all out for themselves.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendment

Cause anyone with a brain could tell our founders meant a force to protect from threats not anyone can have a nuke

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

"To protect the security of the state...."