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[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really difficult if not impossible to be private with services you can't trust... suppose you were to not trust Tor. How can you prove it to be private if you can't trust anything they say or share? I think it's almost impossible, isn't it?

You're going to have to put trust somewhere if you want to be private, whether it's your device's hardware, software, ISP or other...

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that Tor relies entirely on trust. it rather relies on the probability that there needs to be at least half of entry and exit nodes compromised for a attacker to be able to deanonymize users trying to access the clearnet. the hidden network is even harder to deanonymize as there are more than 6 hops in the path. and all nodes participating in the network are visible.

proton on the other hand can do what ever they please on their servers and can never get caught with it.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

I don't disagree with you. But if you start with the assumption that a service cannot be trusted, it's really difficult, maybe even impossible that despite it, privacy is safe. That's a different claim. Especially as this claim would have to hold across the whole end to end. I can't see how one can imagine having any privacy in such a scenario.