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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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Since gasoline because unusable after awhile, most cars will become obstacles and block up roads.

So we of course want something that can zip around the roads!

The main advantages I see are:

  1. Peddle when out of juice

  2. Peddling charges the batteries, so in an emergency you can turn on the battery

  3. The batteries can reasonably be charged by solar panels that a lot of houses have.

  4. Gets around all the blocked roads.

  5. Generally easier to repair.

  6. The distance travelled on a full battery is absurd

I don't expect any movies to put their heroes on an eBike, but they should!

IDK just thought you'd appreciate my dumb thought XD Any other reasons why during an apocalypse you should find an ebike?

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[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (11 children)

This is generally not a thing.

Regen is a fairly common feature in ebikes. It doesn't work while you ride, other than as a brake going down hills, but as most are hub drive if you lift the rear wheel off the ground you could use the bike as a generator and charge the battery by pedalling.

However, it would in no way be energy (food) efficient compared to just using a bicycle due to the losses, but if you needed it for emergencies or for powering something else, it could be used.

[–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

It's not a common feature.

It doesn't make as much sense to do on an bike, mainly because regenerative breaking requires more expensive electronics and stresses the battery more.

My family has 7 ebikes, all different models and none has regen.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

It also requires special frame dropouts consideration because of the back-and-forth torque. Typically a strong torque arm.

Regen is only really a thing with direct-drive hubs and not even with all of them. Yes you can weld the clutch of a geared hub, but this isn't done in production. Some DIY shops like Grin do it on some motors but that's not a widespread practice. And there's definitely no regen on mid drives. To be clear, I'd absolutely use regen if I had a direct-drive hub, because the controller I use supports it, but yeah, it definitely isn't common.

[–] pc486@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Grin is co-developing a mid drive regen. It has a neat design.

https://youtu.be/bLu6H-K4L2Y

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not a mid-drive but a geared hub. And yeah, it's a pretty cool design. I'm just worried about cost and water/salt ingress.

[–] pc486@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Whoops, you're right. I misremembered that for sure.

Totally agreed with the cost. Grin motors are pretty inexpensive, but not many companies have a complete system. Who knows what a licensing agreement would run.

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