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[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I mean… oh no? A million is still wildly more than any one human needs or should have so who gives a shit if they tax it. Also unsure if a retirement fund would exactly count as tradable assets anyways. But also, if we accidentally manage to kill the fucking stock market because of this in only two years that be fucking cool as hell lol.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When a house costs a million dollars, any person easily needs at least a million dollars.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Property (middle class wealth) is already taxed in my state.

[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You would be surprised. If you worked a decent job early in life, moved up the ladder, retired as upper middle class making $250k-ish, it is kind of expected to have about 2-3 mil in your retirement. Hell, if you work a half way decent government job and invested wisely your entire life and didn't have stupid amounts of debt, you should have about a mil in retirement.

1 mil in retirement gives you about 5,500 per month at a growth rate of 6%, withdraw rate of 3%, and annual inflation at 3%. The current recommended retirement is a little under a mil.

As far as retirement funds counting as tradable assets, that is how your 401k accounts work. It is literally a stock market account. The question comes down to when the tax is paid, pre or post withdrawal. In a roth IRA you pay the tax coming in. In a traditional IRA you pay tax when the money comes out. Either way, as long as the money stays in the account you can make it liquid, put it in a stock, bond, mutual fund, whatever you want as long as the account can do it; but in the end it is in a trading account and short of the cash in there, it is a tradable asset.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

A million is just the result of saving over a lifetime .