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Let us show Putin we have ability to hit targets deep inside Russia, Ukraine urges west (www.theguardian.com)

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Ukraine wants permission from the west to use long-range Storm Shadow missiles to destroy targets deep inside Russia, believing this could force Moscow into negotiating an end to the fighting.

Senior figures in Kyiv have suggested that using the Anglo-French weapons in a “demonstration attack” will show the Kremlin that military sites near the capital itself could be vulnerable to direct strikes.

The thinking, according to a senior government official, is that Russia will consider negotiating only if it believes Ukraine had the ability “to threaten Moscow and St Petersburg”. This is a high-risk strategy, however, and does not so far have the support of the US.

Ukraine has been lobbying for months to be allowed to use Storm Shadow against targets inside Russia, but with little success. Nevertheless, as its army struggles on the eastern front, there is a growing belief that its best hope lies in counter-attack.

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[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sooner or later Ukraine will start manufacturing their own such weapons. They have demonstrated time and again that they the ability to be creative and do what the world never expected of them.

Holding them back at this point is just prolonging the war.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Holding them back at this point is just prolonging the war.

“Oh noooo!” - Military Industrial Complex

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No. Ukraine is not the US or Russia, it is more on the scale of Germany. It does not have an industrial base outside the range of Russian bombardment (which was also a problem for Germany in ww2). Any advanced weapons systems they use will have to come from outside.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Ukraine

In 2012, Ukraine's export-oriented arms industry had reached the status of world's 4th largest arms exporter.[1]Since the start of the war in Donbas, Ukraine's military industry has focused more on its internal arms market and as a result slipped to the 9th spot among top global arms exporters by 2015,[2]11th spot by 2018,[3] and the 12th spot among global arms exporters by 2019.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

https://archive.ph/HjueX

The intensity of the war pre in 2014-2022 is nowhere near what it is now. They've had to scramble to even manufacture enough shells let alone weapons systems. The article mentions as well that the new manufacturing capacities have been targeted by Russian artillery.