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My problem with atheism (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago by platypus_plumba@lemmy.world to c/atheism@lemmy.world

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First of all, I have more in common with atheists than religious people, so my intention isn't to come here and attack, I just want to hear your opinions. Maybe I'm wrong, I'd like to hear from you if I am. I'm just expressing here my perception of the movement and not actually what I consider to be facts.

My issue with atheism is that I think it establishes the lack of a God or gods as the truth. I do agree that the concept of a God is hard to believe logically, specially with all the incoherent arguments that religions have had in the past. But saying that there's no god with certainty is something I'm just not comfortable with. Science has taught us that being wrong is part of the process of progress. We're constantly learning things we didn't know about, confirming theories that seemed insane in their time. I feel like being open to the possibilities is a healthier mindset, as we barely understand reality.

In general, atheism feels too close minded, too attached to the current facts, which will probably be obsolete in a few centuries. I do agree with logical and rational thinking, but part of that is accepting how little we really know about reality, how what we considered truth in the past was wrong or more complex than we expected

I usually don't believe there is a god when the argument comes from religious people, because they have no evidence, but they could be right by chance.

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[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Atheism doesn't claim there is no god. You can't prove a negative beyond "we've been unable to find convincing evidence that it does exist, therefore it probably doesn't".

Atheism claims there isn't sufficient evidence that a god exists, therefore we don't believe in it. That's it.

If god shows up on earth and can prove being god, like idk by spawning a live dinosaur out of thin air, atheism dies instantly.

As a more concrete example: I can't prove my glass of water won't kill me. What I can do however is perform a series of tests and establish that it contains no known toxins to man, with the likelihood of it killing me being so minuscule I can be reasonably confident it is safe to drink. Bring me evidence people do die at an increased rate after drinking it and I'll gladly reevaluate. But until then, I call it safe because evidence overwhelmingly tells me it's safe.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

If god shows up on earth and can prove being god, like idk by spawning a live dinosaur out of thin air, atheism dies instantly.

All that proves is that something in the universe can "spawn" a live dinosaur out of thin air. It doesn't prove that thing is a god. It could be an advanced civilization that has mastered teleportation - which would merely be an advanced technology humanity doesn't possess.

Said being still has the burden of proof to demonstrate with irrifutable evidence that it is a god. And even if it manages to do so, that doesn't mean it is one of the gods spoke of in the bible. There's more irrifutable proof that must be shown for that claim.