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My problem with atheism (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago by platypus_plumba@lemmy.world to c/atheism@lemmy.world

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First of all, I have more in common with atheists than religious people, so my intention isn't to come here and attack, I just want to hear your opinions. Maybe I'm wrong, I'd like to hear from you if I am. I'm just expressing here my perception of the movement and not actually what I consider to be facts.

My issue with atheism is that I think it establishes the lack of a God or gods as the truth. I do agree that the concept of a God is hard to believe logically, specially with all the incoherent arguments that religions have had in the past. But saying that there's no god with certainty is something I'm just not comfortable with. Science has taught us that being wrong is part of the process of progress. We're constantly learning things we didn't know about, confirming theories that seemed insane in their time. I feel like being open to the possibilities is a healthier mindset, as we barely understand reality.

In general, atheism feels too close minded, too attached to the current facts, which will probably be obsolete in a few centuries. I do agree with logical and rational thinking, but part of that is accepting how little we really know about reality, how what we considered truth in the past was wrong or more complex than we expected

I usually don't believe there is a god when the argument comes from religious people, because they have no evidence, but they could be right by chance.

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[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My conclusion given the world as presented to me and the information I have is that there is no God.

There also is no Thor, no Santa Claus, no miracles, no ghosts, no easter bunny, and no afterlife. These are my conclusions from my time alive. If information is presented to me that changes these beliefs I'll change my conclusion. But for now, that is my conclusion. That's all. I'm not stating that "no matter what, no matter what information is presented, there can not be or has there ever been a god!", rather I'm saying that I don't believe there are any gods. It's just the conclusion from the evidence.

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your experience is irrelevant. Do you realize how little you know and how ephemeral humanity is? The human race will be gone in the blink of an eye.

This is exactly the type of argument I disagree with. Humans need to be more humble about how they perceive the universe. We're like two blind men arguing about the existence of color.

[–] freeman@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

The individual experience is irrelevant for the effectiveness of a medicine or the height of a building.

But of you want to have a own opinion, a (personal) believe or your own conclusion about a thing, then the things you have read and the ideas you have thought, so your experiences, are necessary and the only thing forming your believe/opinion/conclusion.

This can be wrong or changed, if the person recieves more information, like if they think their specific god has spoken to them, then their believe might change. Or they explain the fact in another way and still dont believe.

All of this is personal and not set in stone