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Well, I see videos with artistically lit-up skyscrapers, drone light shows, and modern transit quite regularly, but that's because I follow people that post that sort of thing. Sometimes you'll see this stuff on , but the comments will of course mention how China is authoritarian.
If you ever see something cool on Reddit In China the top comments will be some flavor of: -this is fake because China lies
-if it's real it's secretly evil. That cool building is powered by 6.78quintillion victims of communism
-its fake because China just like made it up. This is my favorite because... So what.
This bullshit will eventually backfire in terms of people eventually saying "ok, we want that" and then ending up with a fascist theocratic country instead that's 100x worse and wondering what the hell went wrong.
I already know many people that believe dictatorships are efficient because China
I heard a white boomer say something like this recently. They will admit that China is doing well, but they think that it’s because of authoritarianism. What they don’t understand is that this is the authoritarianism of the working class.
Precisely why the propaganda is fucking dangerous. Meanwhile everywhere else where we're trying to get similar systems built all campaigning is for MORE democracy, not less. I have to assume the intent among the ruling class is to genuinely hurt democracy because they know full well that communist structuring is more democratic, not less democratic. Anything that hurts "democracy" actually actively hurts movement towards what we advocate for. The average person just doesn't understand that because of all the propaganda about socialist systems but it's true.
Yeaaa this is why I get pissed off when communists say it's not that important to argue about China or the USSR as long as they understand Marxist theory
The Soviets built the world's 2nd greatest superpower the world has ever seen in a little more than half a century and they still managed to fuck it up because they were the first to ever do it and had no future example
China has constantly learned a lot from their mistakes and have improved upon them
How well would a socialist state function if they believed all the propaganda against the USSR and China? They would never be able to even get a single city functional
Well at least the trains run on time! (they do not in fact run on time)