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[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (9 children)

lmao, not an english native speaker here. What would be, in english language, the difference between poisonous and venomous? Lifting aside the "pois" and the "ven".

[–] Melochar@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Poisonous: will make you sick if you eat it. Venomous: will make you sick if it bites or stings you.

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wait. So what if you ate the snake… wouldn’t that mean at that point it could be poisonous? Checkmate.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you consume venom and don't have any open sores, you should be fine in most cases.

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Poison, however, will probably still kill you if you inject it into your bloodstream. Then again, most things will kill you if you inject it into your bloodstream.

[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Poison is in the fangs not the meat

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean… a fang can be eaten. Dogs eat all sorts of weird stuff.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If you eat a fang and it gouges into your skin and injects venom, did you eat it or did you get bitten?

[–] Disgracefulone@discuss.online 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not the fang that's poisonous but the glands and those absolutely could be even accidentally eaten. #debunked

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

So the conclusion is venomous is a subset of poisonous and the movie totally watchable.

[–] abcd@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago
[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Fair enough lol

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Venom is transported through the fangs just so a bunch of children don't go eating a bunch of venom glands...

[–] gila@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, venom is poisonous. It is a subset of poisons that are injected via bites or stings.

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not native English speaking neither but afaik:

poisonous: you die if you eat it

Venomous: you die if it bites you

[–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
  • If it bites you and you die: it's venomous
  • If you bite it and you die: it's poisonous
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bears are venomous and lava is poisonous. Got it

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

If we follow this logic, bears are both poisonous and venomous.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't speak Spanish, but just looking at the alternative options Google Translate provides when you only input a single word, it's possible that "tóxico" might be a clearer translation of "poisonous".

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Tóxico is more or less analogous to toxic in English, it sounds normal to use with something like a chemical but weird with an animal

[–] ninja@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Poisons are ingested where as venoms are injected.

If you bite (or drink, etc.) it it's poison. If it bites (or stings, etc.) you it's venom.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hace un par de días teníamos esta misma discusión aquí, básicamente «poison» es si lo tocas y mueres. «Venom» es si te muerde y mueres. En español es más simple con veneno jaja

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Español cuenta también con "Ponzoñoso" (Poisonous ) para poder diferenciar. Pero en si, sólo son sinónimos y se utilizan igual.

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Lo mismo me pasó hace unos años. En tumblr había un post donde mencionaban las diferencias entre un "raven" y un "crow", pero ambos sabemos que la traducción directa de ambas palabras es "cuervo"

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Crow sería corneja, propiamente dicho... but everyone knows that ravens are just a big species of crow.

[–] couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Raven — Cuervo
Crow — Corneja
Jackdaw — Grajilla

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 months ago

Portuguese has no different word for them as well. Both raven and crow are translated as "corvo".

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Recalco en que no soy angloparlante porque busqué primero en un diccionario en inglés y aparecen como sinónimos, entonces para sacarme completamente de dudas, pregunto a angloparlantes, pero sigo en la misma situación

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Keep in mind that poisonous and venomous are only different in a scientific context. In regular conversation people use them to mean the same thing (or at least they use poisonous to mean both-- venomous is less used in casual contexts)

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was told that if something dies from poison and you eat it then it is dangerous. But if something dies from venom and you eat it you will be okay.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 months ago

Seems like it would depend on the poison.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 months ago

In Portuguese we have the word "venenoso" for "poisonous" and "peçonhento" for "venomous" (i.e. something with a "peçonha", any toxin substance produced and injected on another animal). But we often use "peçonhento" e "venenoso" interchangeably (e.g. "cobra venenosa").