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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Is the migrant caravan in the room with you right now?


But seriously, this is the damage we've done to ourselves. We're one of the main countries that poisoned our planet with CO2, the main country that got all the benefits of the Industrial Revolution without being bombed back to the fucking stone age like half of Europe in WWII.

With climate change spinning out of control, people want somewhere more secure, more safe, and studies show areas like Michigan will be a lot less effected by climate change than, say, Mexico city.

Can you stop climate change? Oh, no you can't?

Then the migrants won't stop coming. Maybe we need to address the bigger social issues internationally that bring people here to begin with instead of blaming it on the immigrants. Like maybe accepting that the US has a history of fucking over the global south, for one thing.

(We also bombed the living fuck out of the middle east for a decade, and Europe has been dealing with refugees from our fucking illegal war for over a decade now. Maybe we're not the ones to talk about not knowing how to deal with immigrants when we made the EU deal with the aftermath of our dumbfuck wars.)

Further, the main thing you could do to curb immigration is jailing people who hire immigrants who don't have legal paperwork. If there aren't fucking jobs waiting for them, fewer of them will show up.

And finally, the girl I recently met who ran from Venezuela to get here has better education credentials than me, and everyone acts like she doesn't know shit because she went to universities in Venezuela and took classes in Spanish instead of in the US in English. There is materially no difference! The person panhandling might have a fucking degree but our country doesn't give a fuck because they don't speak English well enough. It's a joke and not their fault we act like their education is worthless because they speak a different fucking language. We have people with high level degrees driving Uber for fucks sake because no one cares because their education wasn't in English.

Give me a break with this shit.

[–] macattack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I just want to point out that, reading between the lines, the solutions that would make a difference to change immigration are:

  • Solve climate change
  • Undo the compounding effects of a war that destroyed a country
  • Jail people who hire undocumented immigrants

Your first solution requires Republicans to believe in climate change (and Independents like Joe Manchin not to get in the way and water down the bill that passed). Your second solution requires investing billions in developing countries to right our wrongs and your third sounds like a Republican talking point.

This is why I push back on the narrative that oversimplifies immigrataion as Republicans and Dems equally don't care about immigration.