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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Can confirm. Every time the reps call Kamala a "comrade" or "Communist" I die a little bit inside.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (4 children)

They're using a word their base is afraid of to paint their enemies in a negative light.

Their words aren't for any of us.

They'll change to using anarchist satanists or whatever once their base has reached somatic satiation and "communist" no longer generates enough of the right dopamine hit.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh I'm aware, believe me. The world would be a much better place if Kamala was actually a Communist is what I'm saying.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If Kamala had tried to do anything vaguely socialist while AG or Senator, they'd have gakked her like they did Harvey Milk.

Silicon Valley leadership wants to turn California into a fully techno-fascist dystopia. Nobody who has climbed the ladder as Dem, Repub, or Indie politician has lasted long against that effort. Harris isn't an exception. She's the kind of politician a state produces when anyone more liberal than Gruesome Newsome is systematically excluded from the party.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Exactly. The entire electoral system is a great filtering process.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or they'll get lucky and a new term like Trans or BLM will come along.

Hate is hate. People that hate will hate. Societies that don't respond quickly and firmly to reduce hate will grow more hate. Etc .

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ideas come from material conditions, hatred of trans people, black people, etc. is a result of rising fascism due to decay in Capitalism and proletarianization of the Petite Bourgeoisie.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Good ol fear leading to authoritarianism. One day maybe humans will able to teach enough history to enough humans living on earth at one time to finally learn to not repeat these cycles..

[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I truly had no idea the English name was similar to the French one. TIL something.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The English Name is the french name carried over, to be fair

[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Indeed, but just to be sure, is the meaning the same? The lower fringe/extremity of the bourgeoisie, often with more cultural capital than economical (teachers, non-pauperized nurses, young journalists, PhD in social sciences, etc.), joyfully rebellious but also with high levels of strict adherence to the established order, main agents of the gentrification of formerly popular urban neighborhood but whose younger generations can sometimes adhere to revolutionary perspectives, strongly despised by orthodox marxists while being the primary audience of such movements/orgs?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Generally the Petitie Bourgeoisie are the lower stratum of the Bourgeoisie proper who are proletatianized by the formation of Monopoly Capitalism, ie small business owners.

[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Interesting thanks. Close enough but maybe different cultural overtones. I must admit I didn't take time to check a more consistent definition as I'm 65% taking a nap.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

'communist' has been a hot word since the 50s and I don't see any sign of it ever slowing down

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Agreed .. but it's also kind of meaningless. Which it my point. It's an emotion generating word. Not a "communicating an idea or concept" word. So when it's said it's only ever really used to make you react emotionally.

But you can only get so worked up with only one "hate" word. To continue the cycle they gotta add new ones to keep you keyed up.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

The right doesn't care about the idea or concept, if they found out that blurting out the meaningless phrase 'Blaguoasrunt' at a loud volume triggered people, they would do it, it would catch on, and people would make merchandise about it.

Regressive communications are the death of meaning, and I do not mean that casually. They take words and abuse them so much that everyone else stops caring about the word, regardless of what it meant before.

The word 'Patriot' is a great example. No one I know would appreciate that title because constant right wing misuse of it has twisted its meaning even in common phrases.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago

‘communist’ has been a hot word since the 50s

Make it 1939, if you live in Eastern Europe.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Explain to me what you think a communist is"

I guarantee they give a wrong answer if they can even figure one out.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

To be fair, most people on Lemmy.world can't either. The vast majority of people in the west have not read Marx, or if they have done so, they have only read the Communist Manifesto perhaps once. Communism is so thoroughly demonized in the Imperial Core that only a minor fraction have even read Marx, and only a fraction among them have read more than just the CM.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I heard Trump calling her "Marxis-Leninist" I was like mate you don't even know the beginning of the beginning of even socialism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My favorite quote from that fuckwad is "Lenin. Leh-neen, as they say." Dude has no fucking clue

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Idk how much is weapons grade stupidity and how much is that affect reactionaries adopt around not rberimg things they dislike.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

They have an endless buzzword pocket that they cycle around. Marxist-Leninist, Communist, Socialist, Transgender, Illegal, CRT, DEI, etc.