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Linus Torvalds Speaks on the the divide between Rust and C Linux developers an the future Linux. Will things like fragmentation among the open source community hurt the Linux Kernel? We'll listen to the Creator of Linux.

For the full key note, checkout: Keynote: Linus Torvalds in Conversation with Dirk Hohndel

The Register's summary: Torvalds weighs in on 'nasty' Rust vs C for Linux debate

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

C, C-like, or Rust

As always, Ada gets no respect.

[–] nyan@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Nor does Forth (which used to be a common choice for "first thing to bootstrap on this new chip architecture we have no real OS for yet"). Alas, they're just not popular languages these days.

[–] gerdesj@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Start the linuxa or alinux project and off you trot. Find a better name than I did here and you'll be fine.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ladux? Linda? +Linux, pronounced "Add a Linux" -> Ada Linux? LinLace?

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

I prefer Trabant.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Images of smoking Eastern European jalopy intensifies.

[–] Threeme2189@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Anixa for the win

[–] Brosplosion@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you actually ever used Ada? It's like programming with handcuffs on.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I have played with Ada but not done anything "real" with it. I think I'd be ok with using it. It seems better than C in most regards. I haven't really looked into Rust but from what I can gather, its main innovation is the borrow checker, and Ada might get something like that too (influenced by Rust).

I don't understand why Linux is so huge and complicaed anyway. At least on servers, most Linux kernels are running under hypervisors that abstract away the hardware. So what else is going on in there? Linux is at least 10x as much code as BSD kernels from back in the day (idk about now). It might be feasible to write a usable Posix kernel as a hypervisor guest in a garbage collected language. But, I haven't looked into this very much.

Here's an ok overview of Ada: http://cowlark.com/2014-04-27-ada/index.html

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)