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[–] MalumCaedo@lemmy.world -3 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

That sure is a lot of stuff to read and i bet its dry lecture. To be honest, i won't start looking into them, so thus far you have me. Maybe it's ignorant but Lenin, for me, goes in the same pot as Stalin and Mao and the baddest of them all from Austria. I don't know if there are good ideas in their writings/ methods/ ideologies...what i know is that these are people who abused their power. They ordered people killed or at least restrained who wouldn't comply to them...so i don't know if their works and deeds are a thing to build upon.

I not very educated on the matter but i'd think that "Post-growth" in capitalism maybe is a solution or at least a way to a solution?

Capitalism sucks, yeah. They steal from you, yeah. Thing is that this happens in every system as long as humans are involved. So maybe we as a hole have to go through somekind of capitalistic-cataclysm, which i don't want for me or my kids, but has to happen none the less to come up with something neither Marx & Co. or capitalists envisioned as of yet.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

They ordered people killed or at least restrained who wouldn’t comply to them

This is what states do, they are tools of repression. You've basically limited yourself to reading from a subset of anarchists and no one else with this statement alone.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That sure is a lot of stuff to read and i bet its dry lecture.

It isn't, haha. Pretty easy to read!

To be honest, i won't start looking into them, so thus far you have me. Maybe it's ignorant but Lenin, for me, goes in the same pot as Stalin and Mao and the baddest of them all from Austria.

Bold claims for someone who refuses to even look at the text, let alone read it. Additionally, equating the Communists to the Nazis is in fact Nazi Apologia.

I don't know if there are good ideas in their writings/ methods/ ideologies...what i know is that these are people who abused their power. They ordered people killed or at least restrained who wouldn't comply to them...so i don't know if their works and deeds are a thing to build upon.

Do you know that? You evidently don't read, so where do your ideas come from? Imagination?

I not very educated on the matter but i'd think that "Post-growth" in capitalism maybe is a solution or at least a way to a solution?

What on Earth is "post-growth Capitalism?" Where did you pull that from, and why do you already think it capable of being a solution?

Capitalism sucks, yeah. They steal from you, yeah. Thing is that this happens in every system as long as humans are involved. So maybe we as a hole have to go through somekind of capitalistic-cataclysm, which i don't want for me or my kids, but has to happen none the less to come up with something neither Marx & Co. or capitalists envisioned as of yet.

How, exactly, are people "stolen from" in Socialism? You don't know what you're talking about, but you sure do have strong opinions about it.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Honestly, if you've got the time and the capability I would recommend reading at least Capital 1, it's incredibly well written.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The insomnia is really getting to me, so you're getting it.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa fucking read what cowbee gave you.

I not very educated on the matter

Aaaaaaaaaaa. Maybe educate yourself, for example by reading, maybe what cowbee linked.