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[–] hagensfohawk@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago (1 children)

I guess if your only goal is to win office, then sure, saying Maduro is an authoritarian won't hurt. But if you goal is to build class consciousness and move towards socialism, then it definitely hurts.

[–] hogposting@hexbear.net 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (2 children)

She's not saying Maduro is an authoritarian here, though.

But if you goal is to build class consciousness

There are dozens of better ways to build class consciousness than talking about countries no one in America really knows about except in talking point form. Talking about universal healthcare instead of getting into a struggle session over a country that hasn't existed for 25 years is one of them.

[–] Rev@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

Just off the top of my head she could have called bullshit on his framing and segued into talking about socialism: what it is, what it's goals are, how it is relevant to the vast majority of the American working class, what a socialist methodology in building a new world would imply, etc. But she'd have to have those hidden power levels to begin with, which she doesn't. What you see is very often what you get with these things.

[–] hagensfohawk@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

Well obviously giving everyone a history lesson doesn't in and of itself build class consciousness. But running away from your own history while celebrating social democracy (which is crumbling elsewhere by the way) doesn't do it either.