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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (9 children)

I think Floridas a terrible play, the only state they shouldn’t sleep on is AZ as it shows in so many winning electoral combos for the Reps

[–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 10 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I don’t disagree but making the republicans spend money in Florida also prevents them from spending elsewhere.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (7 children)

No, there is infinite money in Florida, they own the state and half their finance class claim residence there to dodge state taxes and the screwed up laws.

Don't ante up in rigged games, stay out of the south, it's their ground and they want you to fight there where they can cheat.

[–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well I don’t live there and I haven’t been through the south for over 20 years so I’ll take your word on it. But I don’t like to give anywhere I believe in a full ticket run and maybe a serious run at Florida by the top of the ticket can’t win but could help turn some purple districts a bit more blue. And the Presidency is worth much more than the podium unless she’s got the house too.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Your argument is very sound.

But I think the south is the exception, we've lost so many elections banking on the south, 2000 in particular, the one that started this whole nightmare time line from hell.

Personally we need to take back the Midwest, lock it down, then start working on the west.

The GOP has painted itself with a lot of extremely toxic policies, let's use that, force them to be a regional party, confined to the south because nobody else can tolerate their medieval Christian nationalism.

This isn't about trying to win the south, this is about confining the GOP in the cage of filth it helped construct.

Let's redeem the Midwest, they're good people who are reasonably open minded, and they don't ask for much except make their economy work a bit, that's something the democrats are actually good at.

We lost the south when we ended segregation, I think that says enough right there.

Oh, and I did live there, I grew up there, and I'm not white.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As an Ohioan starting a counter to redmap here would be a good idea alongside pushing for solidly blue Michigan. We need more union jobs that aren’t directly tied to automotive. Hell, get us making alternatives to automobiles.

But yeah the Midwest is winnable, and we’re a good staging ground for opposition to gerrymandering.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Center the party around the Midwest, and you will own the country.

Reasonable, hardworking, conservative but open minded, and they generally want to be left alone.

Pivot to them and you lose nobody, and gain more voters elsewhere too.

The GOP keeps losing everyone else the more they pivot to Christian sharia.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You may lose some. But yeah, the biggest thing is to run counterpropaganda to the Midwest. You want walz, you want Obama, and you want to not talk down to us or above us.

I firmly believe that farmers can be sold on wind power, but you gotta sell it to them in their eyes. Tell them what you want to give them in exchange for taxes. So much of anti tax rhetoric I hear comes from people who don’t think they get anything out of their taxes. Hell, “we want trains in your cities to reduce traffic” works. Hammer on an end to government intrusion in private life. Rather than saying it’s about abortion make a call for a legal right to privacy.

And above all else, don’t let rich people from the coasts pretend to be one of us. Desantis cosplaying an Ohioan was not even a little appealing to us.

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