this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2023
959 points (100.0% liked)

Memes

45537 readers
197 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty bold comment considering many of the people are actual swastika-waving Nazis. Stop defending them.

[–] fourFerrets@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'll defend anyone's right to free speech. Doesn't mean I agree with them.

[–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Their free speech is not being violated, just access to a captive audience.

[–] swancheez@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free speech is speech that is protected from government regulation or persecution. This is a private platform, and therefore Nazis and their speech can fuck right off.

So yeah, they are absolutely to spew their hateful speech without legal repercussions, but we absolutely do not have to let them do so here.

[–] Cybermass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago

Their speech hinders the speech of others, particularly the minorities they are violent against. Therefore, allowing them to have a platform goes against free speech. Your right to swing your fist ends at my face.

[–] impulse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What you guys over the pond really should learn sometime soon is that free speech doesn't mean that you can spew any random vile bullshit without repercussions.

In the Fediverse those repercussions are that your audience will be limited to the instance you chose, which honestly considering the content we are talking about is really mild.

Some of the stuff I've seen would definitely be illegal in Germany and Austria, and trust me, we have more experience with Nazis than we ever wanted. We have laws in place to at least try to prevent the resurgence of Nazis and this also affects servers like lemmy.world that are hosted at Hetzner in Germany I believe. Not defederating from these people could cause legal repercussions for the server owner and it's just not worth it, considering the content we are talking about.

[–] bren42069@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i don't think any of you have so much as peeked over there

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago

Oh I have, actually, and I got to see endless slurs, nazi propaganda images, people calling for the death of minorities, and more. But go off