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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

All completely irrelevant to most people. Nobody they know is on those platforms.

There are only two alternatives to the Big Tech messengers that are anywhere near critical mass: Signal and the shady one we're talking about here.

Though I would love Matrix to go mainstream.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is sadly the exact reason it will stay like this. People can't reach me because i don't use WhatsApp? Well bad luck. Use a better app or just don't. I can't reach them because they only use WA? What a bummer but so be it.

As long as people install WhatsCrapp because some distant aunt still uses it for the xmas-greetings, it will continue to be #1.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't it get lonely though?

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I remember the times where we didn't have a tiny computer with us all day to be reachable. And if I'd be lonely because i don't give a rats ass about WA, fb and the likes, that'd be indeed lonely but not due to that

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was talking about your attitude. Lol.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And what is it with my attitude? To have a strong opinion?

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ironically though Matrix has a Problem with metadata leaking out while signal doesn't

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Possibly unsolvable given its distributed nature. Seems like there will be at least some small cost to pay for that benefit.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like there needs to be an incentive in mind for those apps to bring in ppl. People care about privacy but won't even delete FB, let alone use a different messaging app

[–] 01011@monero.town 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they cared about privacy then they wouldn’t use a searchable public database like FB.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think there's misconceptions, trust being put in the wrong place, unawareness involved, or simply they don't think it through, rather than not caring (anectodal/IMO). E.g. "I don't have anything to hide, so what if they collect everything".

If we could build a tool to gather such info, that's easily accessible and for free, to show all the data available on you in the marketplace - that might make them uncomfortable. And then perhaps they'll start to try and understand why they're uncomfortable, and why this is bad.

[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nobody they know is on those platforms.

Nobody is on Signal either.

[–] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I actually had notifications of many non-technical friends getting onto signal. It gained significant traction I think?

[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Compared to Telegram's 1-billion user base, it's still a roundoff error.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

matrix is great but sadly not all my friends use it and i still use discord :(