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I might give Rumble a try (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by ahriboy@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml
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Since red., DD Geopolitics etc. have been banned from the mainstream social media platforms after the stupidest US State Department announcement, I was thinking twice about joining Rumble. However, the biggest obstacle for joining was queerphobia.

PS: Might invite red. and DD Geopolitics to join the site.

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[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In the streaming space, Rumble is just a reactionary version of Twitch. There's plenty of leftist streamers on Twitch though, like

Each of these streamers streams regularly and has their own respective communities, are protective of trans rights, and none use thought-terminating enemy epithets like "tankie". Leftist Twitch is growing, and nothing like this exists on Rumble, no need to go to reactionary spaces to avoid getting banned.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Twitch is already the reactionary version of Twitch. Twitch is a pro-imperialist platform and even more censorious than YouTube toward anti-imperialists. The post was asking about platforms that won't do the State Department's bidding. Twitch literally complies with anti-Russia sanctions, it bans and demonetizes Russian or pro-Russian channels.

If someone is looking for alternatives to YouTube because YouTube banned anti-imperialist channels that were getting too big, they are definitely not going to find that in Twitch.

Inevitably people who wake up to what is going on in the world are going to want to get away from these highly controlled mainstream platforms which are becoming more and more repressive as the establishment's political control is threatened. Telling people that it's not ok to go to alternative platforms because there is right wing content on there will only have one of two results:

Either they will abandon any nascent anti-imperialist sentiments they may have in order to be allowed to stay on the mainstream platforms, or it will drive them straight into the arms of the right which will welcome them into the alternative spaces and validate their frustration over the censorship and control they experienced on mainstream platforms.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You seem to be responding to the first sentence of my comment with no comprehension of everything else in my comment.

If you think that there is no capacity of leftist infiltration on Twitch, you're wrong (see: all of the leftist streamers I listed above). ~~And if you think that Rumble has any potential to harbor leftist content, you are wrong again.~~

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you think that there is no capacity of leftist infiltration on Twitch, you’re wrong (see: all of the leftist streamers I listed above). And if you think that Rumble has any potential to harbor leftist content, you are wrong again.

So, twitch, owned by Bezos, which complies with US repression is "open to leftist infiltration," but Rumble, owned by Thiel, is not?

I use both platforms, and I know of several leftist Rumble channels (Syrianalysis, Richard Medhurst, Danny Haiphong, Geopolitical Economy Report). Does that disprove your claims, or is the whole "Twitch is open to leftist infiltration because there are some leftists" bunk? (Frankly I think anywhere is open to leftist infiltration- right up until it isn't, something that all imperial core-owned platforms can and will be subjected to)

Twitch is more geared towards livestreams, also, whereas more.. journalistic, academic, or analysis-focused content fits more with the Rumble/YouTube format.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use both platforms, and I know of several leftist Rumble channels (Syrianalysis, Richard Medhurst, Danny Haiphong, Geopolitical Economy Report). Does that disprove your claims [...]?

Sure it does, I hadn't heard of any of those. I'm glad you found leftist channels on Rumble. I, personally, would be very hesitant to point someone to Rumble (or Twitch) in general, rather than to specific channels, whether they're on Rumble or Twitch.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

I, personally, would be very hesitant to point someone to Rumble (or Twitch) in general, rather than to specific channels, whether they’re on Rumble or Twitch.

Same, though as I see it that extends to all large western platforms, really. Twitch is generally more inoffensive (because its focus tends to be gaming, and so long as one avoids the chuds most channels are more apolitical than ghoulish), that said.

I didn't exactly find the leftist channels I mentioned on Rumble, admittedly- they're the reasons I use it (Syrianalysis and Richard Medhurst are demonetized, and now I suppose Africa Stream is banned on YT). I basically followed channels I had already been watching on YouTube, as a backup (or to support the creators who were being repressed by YT)