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[–] self@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

y’all really will do anything to avoid just reading the fucking article

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Honestly yeah.

9/10 articles are about as well written as an average comment, and less to the point. We also know just how bad they tend to be on factually, we know they don't hold themselves to any kind of respectable standard, there's practically nothing to gain from reading their "work". We're going to come out of it with barely a whiff of reality whether we read it or not. You have to properly dive into it to understand what the potential trajectories really are here.

Personally I already know that scale makes a massive difference, I don't believe in souls so I find it reasonable to think of consciousness as emergent from simpler parts at scale, but maybe this approach won't get there and something more neuromorphic is necessary.

I also already know with some certainty that they're gonna keep scaling up for now, it's not interesting at all that "In roughly 3 years GPT will be smarter and faster and more consistent probably."

Besides, even if we achieve consciousness we'll reject the possibility and abuse it like it isn't for at least a decade where the only tangible difference will be better AI work and a machine capable of subdued suffering and hate and maybe murder eventually. But that's no more terrifying than people who believe in going to heaven for righteous holy wars being in possession of nuclear weapons so I don't really care if the current trajectory AI theoretically has all this potential. It doesn't make life on Earth feel less safe or less stable. ChatGPT-4o is very good at figuring out what word I'm trying to think of and that's kind of sweet. I don't like AI trash littering Google images, though. Pretty unfortunate, that.

Either way, most articles are utterly pointless.

They're generally written for search engine optimization, not people.

Almost none of the articles I've ever read even use links/sources properly as far as I was taught it, they just pointlessly link to themselves ad nauseam. Mention something Elon Musk said or did? Turn the name into a hyperlink to another article where they wrote something else about the man. Professional.

"Articles" are not a respectable medium.

They're long internet posts written by someone with a boss with an advertising partner, and few of the writers have any qualifications worth mentioning. Usually they can't call themselves knowledgeable in the subject. Often they can't even call themselves interested.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Your comment dissing the article penned by the de facto mod of this instance is around 2 times as long as the article itself. And no offense, dgerard has probably been writing on the internet for longer than you've been alive.

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

holy fuck nobody fucking asked you to write ten fucking paragraphs of absolute horseshit about why you won’t just read the fucking article

and nobody fucking asked you to make every part of your post wrong either, but here we fucking are!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it’s so long I was going to delete it and spare us the eyesore, but what I read was fucking fractally wrong so I’ll leave it up to the thread — delete or leave it up for dissection?

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it’s not interesting at all that “In roughly 3 years GPT will be smarter and faster and more consistent probably.”

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I think leave it up, if you have the headspace for the shooting gallery