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[–] Fluke@discuss.online 55 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fun!

Still trying to figure out exactly what was wrong about what he did. A linked article says:

"...the defendant violated the Lacey Act that restricts wildlife trafficking and prohibits the sale of falsely labeled wildlife."

I guess specifically bringing embryos/sperm of a banned animal into Montana, more than the cloning operation.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sheep breeds that are not allowed in Montana were brought into the state as part of the conspiracy, including 43 sheep from Texas, prosecutors said.

Dude sold to "trophy hunters" and brought in animals that will outcompete and replace native species.

It's a pretty big deal ecologically, and was done for just about the worst reasons

And it wasn't even super unique sheep, it was a couple states away

Also unsure how much "cloning" went into pulling sperm off removed testicles...

In October 2019, court records said, Schubarth paid a hunting guide $400 for the testicles of a trophy-sized Rocky Mountain bighorn sheep that had been harvested in Montana and then extracted and sold the semen, court records said.

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, I read this article and a similar one the other day and it sure sounds to me like he just cross bred some sheep and none of the people involved know what cloning is. He apparently cloned the sheep, but then used it to breed hybrids? That he sold based on percent of the originals DNA? If you can clone in the first place (doubtful, obviously), why are you then breeding anything?

One small rant I’d like to make as this article glosses over his bullshit of a sentence. This country is absolutely fucking terrible about enforcing poaching, wildlife trafficking, or any other number of clear degradations to our natural environment. Ignoring the fact that he most likely didn’t even hybridize anything, because ‘paid off a hunter for the ram’s testicle’ doesn’t inspire confidence as to the care of the sperm cells; he still was illegally trafficking wild animals and their body parts with the intent of raising invasive animals for distribution. And yet, he not only isn’t even getting a slap on the wrist, the judge in the case is fawning over him like he outsmarted all those fancy college kids by cloning a sheep in his barn with nothing more than his own wits and god on his side.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was reading and rereading that bad article to figure out what the problem was. Thanks for that.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it bears a striking resemblance to the story behind Africanized honey bees.

the risk is the same as any other international transport and release of a non native species; invasive species that damage the ecosystem. that these are creatures that don't exist anywhere and don't have a native habitat just makes them that much harder to predict. this was all clearly done without any thoughts about the repercussions or how to avoid them.

[–] tal 5 points 1 month ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacey_Act_of_1900

The Lacey Act of 1900 is a conservation law in the United States that prohibits trade in wildlife, fish, and plants that have been illegally taken, possessed, transported, or sold.[1]

Yeah, the description there makes it sound like the issue is just that the source of the tissue wasn't legal. The quote from the judge makes it sounds like the objection was that he was doing cloning and breeding at all.