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[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's an assumption there that psychology is not a hard science. An assumption that I agree with though.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No science started out as a "hard science". Psychology is hard to quantify yet, because our currently available options for measurements are insufficient.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hard sciences are reducible. Pharmacology reduces to biology, reduces to chemistry, reduces physics.

The hard science of the brain and mind is neuroscience.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

? That would still be biology and therefore reducible to chemistry and physics.

The approach of "everything is reducible to physics" is actually a philosophical theory that tries to describe what is reality. Is the material world everything that exists? Or are our thoughts (our knowing of things) actually a different reality? Etc.

In the end, the differentiation into the different sciences is simply an aid for people. I wouldn't pay it that much attention because it really doesn't tell you anything.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neuroscience is either in medicine or in biology. And following the weird meme of science hierarchy, neuroscience is just biology.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

It reduces to biology. That's why it's a hard science. Saying it's just biology is like saying biology is just chemistry.

[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being reducible is part of it, but I think reproducible is more important. Psychology is not reproducible. You can get statistical equivalents, but not exact reproduction of results.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I think being reducible is all of it. Even if it's reproducable you can know THAT something is true, but not WHY it's true. I think the why, or at least the ability and intention to get there, makes something a hard science.