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You're a lib for even looking at animal products and seeing them as food
I don't get to decide what I feel, I can only decide how to act.
Hopefully, eventually it clicks one day and all you feel is disgust and anger when you look at carni "foods".
I get where you're coming from, but veganism does handle a hefty shift in mindset. Most of us were raised and taught to believe that animal flesh and secretions are food. Though one can logically acknowledge that using such a descriptor of "food" for animal products is carnistic and therefore bad in mentality, they can still be struggling to completely move past that mentality even with that level of self-awareness. These are not mutually exclusive.
Of course, I'm not saying to promote apologism, but definitely acknowledge the difference between someone struggling to accept the premise of veganism, i.e., believing that humans should not exploit animals, and them going through a phase where they are slowly but surely aligning their mindset with such a premise as pieces start to come together.
The discrepancy between how correct veganism is and how much society pushes against it can really create the most absurd kinds of cognitive dissonance, I'd say.
It's not that deep I was literally just responding in the same vein as what OP in her first paragraph explicitly said was helpful, amazing how I got 3 different comments acting like I was being an asshole including the one from op lmao
Ah, I didn't even realize. I guess the fact that you can't really sniff out tone through online text sometimes hinders that ability.
I know you're very unapologetic (and that's based as fuck), but you know, I didn't wanna call you an asshole. I just wanted you to have a bit more empathy, even if it's with someone who has a carnistic mentality.
And you've never had an impure thought, I assume?
Never had to exert serious effort into not eating gore, no
Do you have to consciously remind yourself not to eat that day and a half old opossum corpse on the side of the road? Do you constantly catch yourself salivating at the thought of stabbing your grandma and carving up her thighs for your next meal? None of that occurs to me at any point in my day.