What I'm seeing here is that political violence is an effective means of shutting down right-wing discourse.
Zuzak
Here's an idea: what if we had the government pay for everyone's healthcare and then whenever someone wanted to build an F-35 or whatever they had to make a GoFundMe for it?
This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas.
The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumour campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his barnyard sows.
"Christ, we can’t get away with calling him a pig-fucker,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”
“I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofabitchh deny it.”
We have “deindexed” all adult NSFW content from our browse and search pages.
All NSFW content is affected, at least pending review.
That's what you got from that?
Putting aside that you're completely ignoring my actual point and that this is a completely irrelevant tangent, yes, actually, I do. Both groups tend to denounce any revolution that's actually successful because it doesn't match the ideal in their head. Both have a similar concept of "permanent revolution." Really the major difference I see between them is attitude and branding. At the end of the day, both ideologies are about placing unrealistic demands on existing socialist projects and then denouncing them when they don't live up to them, one of them just hates Stalin more.
Yeah, and there's also a Trotskyist party in China (Hong Kong). So what?
What it comes down to, for me at least, is that I don't really have any influence over what happens in China, except through my government fucking with them. And I don't want my government to fuck with them. So you can verbally "support" whatever group with whatever line you like but I don't see how that's really going to have any material impact on anything, unless you live there. I suppose there are other forms of mutual cooperation, but it's not as though I'm mailing envelopes of cash to the Chinese embassy, and if they ever decided to start sending me envelopes of cash, you know, baller.
To put it another way, for all intents and purposes, I support China. Any policy question that's "Should we (meaning my, the US, government) mess with China?" is going to be answered in the negative. If you would also answer that question in the negative, then we're on the same page, mostly just disgreeing on phrasing. If, on the other hand, you're potentially willing to support the US government against China, then that's a bit of an issue, and a position that you would need to actually defend.
Otherwise, can you give a practical, realistic example of how my support for China and your opposition to China manifest in tangible differences?
Preparing to drop some tactical, "Vote Blue, No Matter Who's," in the most bad faith possible.
Yes.
If you asked me to choose between the USSR under Khruschev and the US, I'll choose Khruschev. If you ask me to choose between the PRC under Deng and the US, I'll choose Deng. That's not so much an endorsement of every single thing they did or believed as it is about not throwing the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to ideological disagreements or imperfect implementations.
Also, the same idea can be good under certain circumstances and bad in others. That's the whole point. Marxism isn't about a certain set of policies, it's a materialist, class based method of analysis, specific policies should be developed based around specific circumstances.
Oh, really? I totally thought that was why they had so many people running in the general.
The first was a random accident. The second was because a pilot swooped in to get a better look at the first tower and wasn't looking where he was going.
Naturally, everyone immediately tried to politicize it 🙄