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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Royal_New_Zealand_Navy_mutinies

Our navy has been an underfunded embarrassment for at least 75 years, the US coast guard could probably wipe us out. This is definitely a low point though.

[–] tal 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The US Navy has had its share of driving ships into things that it shouldn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Guardian_(MCM-5)

On 17 January 2013, Guardian ran aground on Tubbataha Reef, in a protected area of the Philippines in the middle of the Sulu Sea. The vessel was turned and pushed further onto the reef by wave action. Unable to be recovered, the vessel was decommissioned and struck from the US Naval Vessel Register on 15 February 2013.

There were two destroyers that collided with cargo ships a few years back:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_S._McCain_and_Alnic_MC_collision

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Fitzgerald_and_MV_ACX_Crystal_collision

There was also that incident -- though in an era with more-primitive navigation -- where most of a squadron of destroyers collided with California:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Point_disaster

The Honda Point disaster was the largest peacetime loss of U.S. Navy ships in U.S. history.[3] On the evening of September 8, 1923, seven destroyers, while traveling at 20 knots (37 km/h), ran aground at Honda Point (also known as Point Pedernales; the cliffs just off-shore called Devil's Jaw), a few miles from the northern side of the Santa Barbara Channel off Point Arguello on the Gaviota Coast in Santa Barbara County, California. Two other ships grounded, but were able to maneuver free off the rocks. Twenty-three sailors died in the disaster.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Given that we're lucky to have two ships at sea on any given day, I think we have a pretty poor record. How many vessels would the US navy have at sea, typically?

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I'm not even sure how to go about calculating that with any accuracy. I would hazard a guess to say that 1/3 to 1/2 of all US Navy ships are underway at any given time, but that's just from personal experience at a smaller base. Forward deployed commands (like in Japan and Spain) have a generally higher operating tempo, so maybe a slightly higher average overall?

Out of 350-ish ships, half is a fuckin lot. Maybe one of our highly intelligent officers can chime in with more accurate info.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Considering that your entire country has the same population as one reasonably-sized US city, what did you expect?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I figure we could at least spring for a destroyer or two.

[–] atempuser23@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

They did seem to successfully inspect the reef. I mean the Moskva didn’t even do that. I can’t see this as anything other than a full success.