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[–] vala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Having educated and debt free youth is the only way the US is going to remain relevant in the world economy.

"Crabs in a bucket" arguments like yours really just illustrate how the US has got to the point we are at right now.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your argument is akin to trickle down economics.

Further, I'm not against making future college free for anyone who wants it. I'm just against bailing out everyone who willingly and knowingly took on large amounts of debt as their own choice, even when there were other viable options not to.

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But that's just the point, the inflation of college tuition is borderline predatory. I absolutely went to college because I "had" to, but after 4 years of further self discovery and education I realized I didn't actually want/need the education I received (the social aspects were absolutely a blast though, don't get me wrong). If I wasn't socially pressured by academic advisors and the wealthy into going to college and instead was actually explained what college entailed, I likely wouldn't have gone (at least in hindsight). Now I work in a profession completely unrelated to my 2 computer science/math degrees and will be paying for the mistake of biting the higher education pill for decades.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry you made a bad choice? It was still your choice to make, and you continued making the choice of going for years.

Using your major or not, you still had the networking benefit and the college degree to help you become a more employable candidate than someone without. All other things equal, you would get hired before someone else who only has a hs diploma.

It was also still a choice you made, and really? You had two math degrees you earned but didn't have the capacity to work out college costs and interest rates before getting out of high school? As someone else who's decent at math, you really had to of known how that all worked, surely?

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

As someone who is decent at math and shit a social interactions I was promised "No really bro, you want to make more money, trust me bro" by persons of authority and then it turns out, no I don't really. Because yeah it turns out doing extra math homework opens more doors, but those doors are all the same and what was behind those doors was never actually explained. If the government says my brain is still developing and that I can't be trusted to vote for the president then surely that same government must admit that I can't be trusted to make informed choices about 40,000 - 200,000 dollar investments. As someone who really wishes that they took your path, I can absolutely attest that I was coerced into making a poor choice early. And while I won't try and deflect that as it ultimately was a choice I made, I was far from informed.