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[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I don't think you're supposed to conclude that Ozymandias is right.

[–] soyoyo@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Most of the heroes side with him, which I think was the question. In terms of what the reader is supposed to think, that's of course an opinion formed. For what it's worth, the author Alan Moore apparently hates Rorschach, the one hero who does not side with Ozymandias. Moore is an eccentric though.

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

I would contend you're supposed to dislike all of them, Rorschach is a moral absolutist who can't accept the other characters' tolerance of Veidt's plan but that is not a redeeming quality, he has violent fantasies of hurting people for petty crime.

Watchmen is a send up of Superheroes as an idea, Moore basically posits that real superheroes would be a horrendous disaster because they would all be bad.

You're right that the heroes agree. I guess I interpreted the OP as asking for an example of a correct villain in the sense that they correctly pursue a real good end against the hero, not "a guy who does 9/11 to a city and convinces a bunch of fascists that he was correct to do that. "

[–] soyoyo@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's a good analysis and I didn't mean to say I think Rorschach is right or good, but I do like him in that he's an interesting characters as are others. The "technically right" part of OP's question is open to some interpretation I guess since Ozymandias is successful in his plot despite it being evil. I mean, the premise here is that a villain is right so it's tricky to say they're doing something "correct", but actually still a villain. He's successful. His plan works at least up until the end of the written story and the protagonists agree with him (mostly). Oh man, mentioning Watchmen opens a can of worms!

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Nah you're probably right, I just took the 'villain' being in quotes too far probably.

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