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‘The Community Is In Chaos:’ WordPress.org Now Requires You Denounce Affiliation With WP Engine To Log In (www.404media.co)

submitted 2 months ago by some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org to c/technology@lemmy.world

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The board needs to oust the CEO.

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[–] garretble@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’ve been using WP for personal projects for something like 15 years.

Nothing I’ve ever created has been that big, but I generally liked the tools nonetheless.

But now I think I’m out. I try to adhere to a rule where I don’t support rich weirdos as much as possible, and as such that’s why I use Lemmy to begin with. And don’t buy from Amazon. And don’t use Twitter any more. Etc.

So my next project now will totally be on new software. And hey, maybe I won’t have to use PHP ever again so this could be a win.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don't judge PHP by what you saw in WordPress. Modern PHP is amazing, WordPress had horrible code when it started and they definitely didn't fix things afterwards. It's a horrible slow mess of a code. Look at some modern PHP (for example this api of mine ) to compare.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Thanks for sharing a modern php codebase. It makes me confident that giving it up and switching to Python was the right choice.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

lol

[–] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah enjoy your single thread. I'll be there writing writing kick ass code in rust and wondering about important stuff like... err... who owns that fucking variable....

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cool story. Rust didn't exist when I switched from php to Python.

[+] rikudou@lemmings.world -8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Imagine going to the slowest and ugliest interpreted language there is and feeling superior about it.

Like, modern Python is basically what PHP was at its lowest point, PHP 4 (20 years ago).

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, it's worse. PHP never had shit like virtual environments and a million different incompatible package managers.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Virtual environments are a great thing.

[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

I'd argue that the concept of isolated environments is great. Python's implementation... leaves something to be desired.

It's still a bit hacky, even in Python 3. Tools like uv and pdm exist in the gaps to smooth it out.

That said, it's something that the core community is actively working on and it's not something users will face day to day.

I say this as someone who moved from PHP 3 to Python 2 to Ruby to PHP 6+ to Python 3 as their goto language over the years.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Hahahahaha. Are you seriously defending crap like __autoload and package management built on top of that hack?

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mojo is what is keeping me vindicated that python was a good choice. That and it's worked for every project I've ever used it for lol

But that's small potatoes in the technologist game

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago

The best tool is the best tool for the job. My php code was immaculate - import header, write your content, import footer. I wrote it all in a few hours, and I think my university is still using it today. One of my proudest moments was when a team member whose abilities I respected gushed over how easy my code was to work with

I haven't used it since.

I'm led to believe modern PHP has become pretty good. It's also never been the right tool for the job since then

Mojo sounds incredible - python is a beautifully consistent language, and I've written a shit load of it. I like it a lot. It's often not the right tool for the job, but mojo promises to turn it into something extraordinary that shores up its weaknesses... It's just promises so far though, I really hope they pan out

But always ask yourself - what's the right tool for the job?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Nice code, good job!

[–] mitexleo@buddyverse.one 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried Ghost?

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried static site generators like Hugo?

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I tried both. Static site generators are great for me, but when I have collaborators, they need a an admin dashboard or something with a graphical interface for editing the looks and/or content. Ghost is great but lacking features. Just saw Concrete5 in this thread, looks promising.