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Fortunately, it's a TV show for you.
Sadly, I mastered the ability to feel empathy.
Hmm, you might not fit in here then, we like to shoot first and ask questions later.
The good news is that most people don't care what the president says, so as long as Trump doesn't start WW3 or a civil war, we should be alright. If not, well, at least we had a good run.
True, but I don't want him to sell my neighboring states to Daddy Putin
What, you don't believe he's mastered The Art of the Deal?
Honestly, the US should stick to either funding or not funding other countries' defensive wars, we really shouldn't be sitting at the table unless both sides request it.
My impression as someone from Europe is that people wouldn't even care if Trump started any war, as long as it isn't named "Civil War" or "WW3"
Fair. A civil war an WW3 impacts us directly, any other war would just run up our national debt and therefore isn't an issue. Bombing brown people is fine, we draw the line at shortages at the store (that's why we to war against Covid, after all).
That's a short sighted view of the world. We are very much affected when morons across the pond vote a madman into power.
Fair, but my point is that most of the BS that happens here doesn't really impact anyone, such as:
I'm certainly no fan of Trump and have voted against him every election so far and plan to this election, but I also don't think he's nearly as dangerous as the posts that get attention here on Lemmy make him out to be. He's certainly dangerous, but I think it's more from a "stupid economic and foreign relations policy" perspective than the "next Hitler" perspective that so many online try to label him as.
The net result of a Trump vs Harris presidency probably won't impact too many people outside the US. Neither seems particularly keen to start a massive war, and they both are championing policies that will likely make the economy worse (Trump's tariffs and Harris' price fixing and corporate tax hikes). Harris will probably be less bad overall for both Americans and non-Americans, but I highly doubt Trump will do anything truly atrocious, he really does want to be seen as "the best President" or whatever.
I certainly won't convince you, and my post was largely meant to be funny, so take this for whatever it's worth (probably what you paid for it).
I certainly appreciate where you're coming from. But whereas I've no idea exactly what Biden did during his tenure, Trump's mandate was a nearing constant barrage of WTF proclamations and online logorrhea, with some of his delirium actually affecting me personally and I for one, as a foreigner, like to have quiet, well-behaved neighbours. So if we could have another four years of peace and quiet, that would be nice.
Yes, that would be nice.
That said, for all of the nonsense Trump spewed, his actual changes were pretty mild:
Most of that doesn't impact anyone, except maybe the weakened sanctions against Russia encouraged Putin to invade Ukraine. But that's really hard to say, since the invasion didn't happen until 2 years into Biden's presidency, so it probably would have happened regardless. the trade negotiations were mostly directed at Asian trade partners (mostly China).
He was a terrible president, yes, but most of the impact to regular people was him spewing rhetoric on social media. I honestly just ignored that noise and was relatively happy during his presidency (and the tax cuts were nice).
You guys should get your own fascist rise to power in check before worrying about ours. The amount of surveillance you've got going on is nothing short of Orwellian.