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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I sure wish more of these people that are all hung up on an issue would vote in the primaries. You know, where you have at least a slim chance of changing things.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Given how Harris was chosen, I'm really not sure this is the year to make that argument.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I look at the 2016 primaries, and the 2020 primaries, and I have little reason to expect people to suddenly show up for the primaries. They just show up to bitch about their lack of choice leading up to the election.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

2016 and 2020 make great examples of how the Democratic establishment rallies around their preferred candidate to ensure that The centrist choice wins. There was a lot of activism in the primaries, how in the world can you call that "showing up to bitch"? Then this year Biden conveniently did not allow us to have primaries.

You really can't tell progressives to just "vote in the primaries" when it's very clear that Democrats will do everything in their power to prevent a progressive from being nominated.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It was Biden/Harris. He stepped down, but that doesn't suddenly mean that she has to. And with the way the rules around succession and such are worded, especially campaign finance, she was the only choice. Because she was already the VP nominee.

But most importantly, Biden stepped down for the good of the country, and Harris has stepped up.

[–] cook_pass_babtridge@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the parent poster's point is that Biden didn't have to win a primary this time, because they didn't have one.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Except there was a Democratic Primary. It's just that no one runs against an incumbent.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Biden could have decided not to run at any point. Many people were calling for him not to run and he didn't suddenly become an 80 year old.

Biden waited until after the primaries to step down. I'm glad he's gone, but "she was the only choice" because of Biden's choice.

You can't tell progressives "Vote in the primaries!" when you don't even hold primaries.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Just because you didn't pay attention to the primaries, doesn't mean they didn't happen.

There were primaries, and even a few jackasses who ran against Biden. They didn't win. Biden did. Then the debate happened and every media org out there focused on the "Biden old" narrative until he was forced to drop out.

Then the Republicans start pretending that we need to redo the primaries because Harris didn't have top billing on the ballot that she was on. Because they're racist and misogynistic jackasses who argue in bad faith.