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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 176 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I don't like Harris very much. But the fact that half the country is willing to choose a deranged con artist over her is just beyond any rational thought.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 77 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Rationality has nothing to do with it.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's all fear based. They think the migrants coming across the border are coming to take their job, rape them, break into their home, shop at the same Walmart as them, etc.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I want to commend you for how well you did that. Absolutely beautiful ending with “shop at the same Walmart as them”

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Well played there. 👍

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've lately been watching some radio shows on the BBC, and it's wild to see the same things happening over there. I don't know if it's just how modern society has become or if it spread from us or them, but take away the British accents and the names and policies, and it's the same insanity. What the hell is wrong with people?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Russia created a network of wannabe autocrats, and they are pushing each other all across the globe.

That's it, that's most of all of it.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No it isn't. It's hardly any of it. We exist in the same places they are targeting and it didn't turn us into complete goddamn idiots, so what's their excuse?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago

They have always been racist, but the populists taking advantage of them use Russian tactics and are backed by Russia.

Stuff like Trump and Brexit is not normal, and it's not just happening spontaneously because all the racists decided to be more overt at the same time around the world.

[–] bay400@thelemmy.club 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Half the voting population, more specifically

Or I guess in this case, half of those polled

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To be fair, it's not like everyone that doesn't vote hates him. Some do I'm sure, but there's also going to be people that think favorably of him but don't bother voting, just as there are and have been for his opponents

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 months ago

That's what happen when you fuck your education system for money

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Everything is fear based and not rationale.

Trump voters fear immigrants; Fear their guns, religion and identity are somehow being taken away. They fear and refuse to understand the world is constantly changing and that we need to adapt along with it.

Harris voters (rightly) fear trump and all the bigotry, racism, and misogyny he has enabled and emboldened.

Most of the American people don’t have something to vote for, only something to vote against. The ruling class is further detached for the working class by stoking culture wars gaslighting on the socioeconomic disparage

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They want Trump in because he represents an amoral outsider. Someone who is disenfranchised by the moralisms of the establishment left.

This is how they see themselves.

They like him because he's a shithead who doesn't care to preserve this system. They want change even if it's bad.

In this way pointing out that he's a shithead and a risk to democracy - helps him.

Unfortunately it's the Harris campaigns only option, as the alternative is to say: He's actually a highly connected establishment figure who will pull the same establishment shit we do. This would have obviously blow back for an establishment figure.

They want Trump BECAUSE he's a train wreck.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

I actually believe it will end up being Harris by a large margin. I believe a lot of Republicans who don't want Harris to win, still won't actually go out and bring themselves to vote for Trump. They'll just stay home.