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[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

In all earnestness, as someone who isn't too aware of Nigerian politics - why shouldn't the elected government be helped back into power? What reasons do we have to believe that the junta has the best interests of the Nigerian working class more than the previous regime?

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 43 points 10 months ago

I'm not super well read on it, but to summarize:

  • We KNOW that the French definitely don't have the interest of the Nigerian people at heart. (ask more if this isn't clear).
  • We also know that the French government is neoliberal capitalist, and opposes the aims of the global socialist movement.
  • It remains to be seen how "good" or how "socialist" the future government turns out to be, but their initial actions of being hostile to French colonialism have been good for socialism so far.
  • the most demonstrable action has been to cut off exports of uranium to France, putting the government of Niger in the driver's seat to control that. Now we wait (months, years?) to see if they use that to benefit their people.
[-] Comrade_Vig@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Also:

Niger's coup leader has promised to return the West African nation to civilian rule within three years.

Revolutionary action, in this case a coup, is important to drive out colonial/imperialist grip over the country.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-66562765

Note: I assume you mean Nigerien (Niger) not Nigerian (Nigeria)

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

Yes, my bad, and I agree but I wish (who tf cares what I wish lol) that they would do their revolutionary action under a socialist banner which isn't exactly how I see it at this point.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

I mean, didn't they say that "Sankara showed that the only path forward for Burkina Faso is socialism"? Or am I misremembering?

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Note: I assume you mean Nigerien (Niger) not Nigerian (Nigeria)

thank you for teachin me that o7

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

We KNOW that the French definitely don't have the interest of the Nigerian people at heart. (ask more if this isn't clear).

Of course. I took that for granted that a former European colonizer wouldn't.

the most demonstrable action has been to cut off exports of uranium to France, putting the government of Niger in the driver's seat to control that. Now we wait (months, years?) to see if they use that to benefit their people.

They could easily switch to exporting to a country in a different ideological camp. International relations is always about power - no country behaves altruistically on the world stage.

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

Right. I think we are about in the same place then. We need to see what comes up next.

There are certainly questions we can discuss about the democratic process, and where it may fall short, and it may be necessary to circumvent, but that's probably a topic for another thread.

I think that looking ahead, the country is better off paving a new future rather than restoring a government that's gonna cozy right up to the French again and maintain the status quo. That could backfire. I guess one thought is that even if it backfires and they end up in kind of an Iran situation, the situation is overall good for the global socialist movement since it weakens at least one colonial power, and we can hope that the movement reforms the country again to something "good" at some point in the future.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

Any long-term solution to Niger's issues has to come from within the people of Niger, of course.

I expect that a status quo change is likely only on a geopolitical scale and that once the excitement of a change in government dies down the military will run into and perpetuate much the same issues.

I only really trust China to be able to invest and trade with the Global South without being exploitative (even if they aren't doing so out of altruism).

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Could be two or more global powers in one of Niger locks down uranium exports for long enough – or even just racks up the price. Geopolitically, bringing Nigerien uranium into China's orbit at the same time as bringing Afghan lithium into China's orbit is going to have a ripple effect eventually. Hard to predict more than that.

[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

cut off exports of uranium to France

Wasn't that just a rumor (would rock if true though)

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

Idk, if it's not true than that would change my thoughts on the current situation

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