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The 30-year mortgage rate hits 7.48%, the highest level since 2000
(www.nbcnews.com)
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Not that this doesn't suck for current home buyers, buy it's worth keeping in mind that this is still fairly low on a historic perspective. Rates through the last part of the 20th century were often in the double digits (https://www.freddiemac.com/pmms). They dropped to around the current level in the late 90's and started tanking in the early 2000's. And then fell off a cliff in 2008. The Fed has been trying to get rates back up again ever since, often with negative results. At the same time, raising rates is one of the few tools the Fed has to keep inflation in check, and it needs to be used, lest we end up in the same situation as Turkiye with inflation upwards of 80% officially (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63120478). Erdogan has very helpfully provided a great case study in lowering interest rates while fighting inflation, he chose poorly.
The difference is that the same house in 1990 at 12% still only cost $150k. Today at 7% it costs $1.2m
Source: the house I grew up in, county sales records.
Right, these people are so quick to "well akshually" they completely ignore the inflated house costs since which layers more unaffordability on top of already unaffordability.
150k at 12% is $1543/mo; in 2023 dollars, that’s $3609/mo. 1.2M at 7% is $7984/mo.
Over the same time period, the S&P500 has gone up by a factor of 13.6x - if you invested $150k in 1990 you’d have $2.04M today.
I’m not trying to make a point - I just thought this was interesting.
There's only a handful of areas where that level of appreciation happened. There's about as many places that 150k house is the same or less because it's a crime ridden neighborhood now, or there's no economic activity in the area anymore. The average is more like 2-3x increase in the last 30 years.