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[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This response reeks of naive idealism wrapped in self-righteous moralizing. It’s easy to demand that Kamala Harris “denounce genocide” as though it’s a magic wand that will instantly change the geopolitical landscape, let alone the electoral map. To put it bluntly, if she does that, she will almost certainly lose the election.

That utter nonsense. If she stops the shipments she gets progressive votes. And she wont get nearly from the "center" gun nuts and frackers. The only options she has are to wait and see if she magically gets the numbers somehow, or flip halfway on the genocide issue and stop the shipments. She doesnt even need to go to the palestinian side, she just needs to stop the shipments and the outrage on the AIPAC side will make it look like she made some firm stand. She just needs to give a tiny smidgeon. Or she loses.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If she stops the shipments she gets progressive votes.

Bullshit, y'all get played like a fucking fiddle every time by Putin and Netanyahu. If it wasn't Gaza, it would be something else. Harris will never get your votes, best we can hope for is you to shut up and stop influencing the low-information voters.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is it really so hard to believe that genocide might be a big deal for some voters? You know some of these people know or are related to those being killed right? What would you tell them? Its not that important?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I'd tell them they're being duped by people harnessing their anger.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You need read up on what progressives even are so you dont embarass yourself further. You clearly dont understand the basics of what you are talking about. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/types-democrats-republicans-house-2024/

And you can save any further comment, I'll be blocking you after this. I will argue with people who people who have differing ideas, but not with people who dont even know what they are talking about and are spewing nonsense.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

In addition to intentionally conflating liberals and neoliberals, you bastards are also conflating Leftists with progressives, and that's just fucking offensive.

I am a progressive. You are not. Trade on your own reputation instead of trying to hitch yourself to ours.