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[–] rook@awful.systems 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The reality is that some of us only have glimmers of sapience, and many not even that. Most humans, most of the time, are mindless zombies following a script

It’s a funny thing, that there are certain kinds of people who are assured of their own cleverness and so alienated from society that they think that echoing the same dehumanising blurb produced by so many of their forebears is somehow novel or informative, rather than just following a script.

(the irony of responding with an xkcd is not lost on me)

Much like the promptfondlers proudly claiming they are stochastic parrots, flaunting your inability to recognise intelligence in other humans isn’t a great flex.

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

How nice it must be to never ponder how large humanity is, and how each and every person you see outside has a full and rich interior and exterior world, and you that only see a tiny fraction of the people outside.

Personally one of my "oh other people are real!" moment, was when our parents (along with my sisters) took us on a surprise ferry trip to England (from France) and our grandparents that—at least as far as kid me remembered—we only ever saw in their home city, were waiting for us in Portsmouth, and we visited the city together (Portsmouth Historic Dockyard is quite nice btw).

I knew they were real, but realizing that they weren't geo-locked, made me more fully internalize that they had full and independent lives, and therefore that everyone had.


How about people here? When did you realize people are real?

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 13 points 2 months ago

How about people here? When did you realize people are real?

When I moved out for the first real time. I realised my parents were whole human beings in their own right, and by extension every other person in the world.

I know that might make me sound stupid as I was an adult when I had that realisation. I mean it as the first time I really understood and internalised that idea. Everyone is on their own journey. Also not disputing me being a dumbass, there is plenty I do not know.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How nice it must be to never ponder how large humanity is, and how each and every person you see outside has a full and rich interior and exterior world, and you that only see a tiny fraction of the people outside.

I don't think that's nice. That sounds extremely bleak and depressive, not to mention downright sociopathic.

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't swap it for the world ^^, but maybe a tad fewer existantial crises would be nice (no monkey-paw curls plz)

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

To respond to this part:

How about people here? When did you realize people are real?

I just have this basic human feeling of appreciation whenever someone close goes out of their way to do something nice for me. It's always this reminder of hey, I exist in other peoples' lives as well, isn't that cool!

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

How about people here? When did you realize people are real?

still difficult for me, I think it's part of my flavor of autism

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

I don't remember a time when I didn't understand everyone else had a life and thoughts of their own, just like I do. Maybe it helps that I grew up with a sibling of a similar age.