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The motion also included new details on how Trump's relationship with Pence deteriorated, with the former vice-president telling Trump to stop repeating false election fraud theories and move on. 

The documents released on Friday include transcripts of interviews with the 6 January House committee that investigated the US Capitol riot, parts of Pence’s autobiography and fundraising emails sent to voters. 

It is unclear if the 6 January case will ever go to trial. Trump is expected to end the prosecution if he returns to the White House.

He is facing several other criminal cases. He already has been convicted on 34 felony counts in New York in relation to a hush-money payment.

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[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 121 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He is facing several other criminal cases. He already has been convicted on 34 felony counts in New York in relation to a hush-money payment [in his election interference case].

We are 8 years into this and the media still constantly tries to downplay what this shithead tried to do to the American people in his neverending quest of greed and narcissism.

[–] Jozav@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yet he is looking at 50% of the votes. "The people deserve the shithead they elect".

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

hes never won the popular vote. hes gamed the electoral college which was designed to give those backwoods, propaganda-driven zombies outsized power.

[–] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Let it be 45%... What the fuck is wrong with a huge amount of muricans? Completely brain dead it seems...

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

only 60% of people who can vote, do. and he got 45% of that.

that is why everyone is yelling 'vote!' from the rooftops.

[–] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I know, but that doesn't change the fact that there's a significant amount of people missing a brain... Not that I can do anything about it. And it's not that europe is way better in this regard with the rise of right-wing-populism (but Trump is just idiocracy level).

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

a huge part is the passive propaganda machine in the southern united states. its fox news, 24/7 everywhere you go. every waiting room. every bar. for many this is their sole 'news' outlet.

you repeat a lie enough to a person, they will accept it as fact. these people readily admit, 'there are 5 lights!'

[–] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seemingly, it's sad. I just cannot fathom this, to me when someone is repeating lies I just declare him idiot. What I find concerning is the level, i.e. they don't accept logic facts and seemingly once that downward-spiral occured they cannot get out of their screwed conception of the world. I begin to "understand" why Nazis back then had success with what they did...

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It's because you care more about the truth than being accepted as part of the group. Humans are wired to value being accepted, generally, so most people fall for the idea that consensus is a fact-based exercise.

[–] Jozav@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bad excuse. Today, Harris 48%, Trunk 46%. That is only a ffing 2% difference.

The USA deserves the shithead they elect.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Polls mean nothing

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

At lest 50% of the people are not going to vote for him regardless of what the electoral college ends up deciding.

The people don't deserve what the Constitution mandates and they have no way of changing. The incredibly popular Equal Rights Amendment never passed. It had massive public support. Politicians didn't give a shit because most of them were men. And still are.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not to be that guy, but you're actually in the wrong here by adding incorrect information. It was not an election interference case. The 34 convictions were for charges of falsified business records. There's nothing actually illegal about paying someone to not talk to the press about something that might affect an election. The problem was how he tried to hide the payments.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But as stated during the trial, the reason he wanted to hide the Stormy stuff was to protect his campaign. So by making a deal with National Enquiry to catch and kill the story to protect his campaign, not his family, means it was a campaign finance violation because he tried to do it on the DL instead of declaring it the legal way.

And you're right that paying someone to stay silent isn't illegal (as long as the thing you're having them stay silent about itself is legal), but doing it in furtherance of his campaign without properly reporting it is illegal. So pretending it's just a casual falsified business records case is downplaying the election interference by trying to hide payouts to protect his campaign bid (electability).

Edit - it was the 2nd crime (election interference) that made each count a felony instead of a misdemeanor.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago

As you say this, millions of tweens attempt to film themselves partaking in the latest tiktok challenge in hopes of going viral and starting their career as a streamer.