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How bad do we all think things are likely going to get in the west/imperial cores? How quickly do we think the west's internal spiral to fascism is going to proceed? (hexbear.net)
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Saw this thread, and it really hit a chord with me, as these similar fears tend to constantly weigh on me (for various reasons- being trans, ethnic Chinese, commie, etc).

I think we all (leftists, but also just most minorities) know, shit is bad and will get worse, it's just a question of how bad it will get. People mention it offhand without usually going further into the details, and similarly in other spaces - non-leftist ones as well, for instance Asian diasporic and LGBT spaces in my experience, these fears come up, but ultimately we keep the bulk of our concerns to ourselves. What are our expectations here, for the west? Not just for the US, but the Anglosphere and Europe?

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[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 27 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

As someone who's seen how the hate against Indians has exploded (as well as how first nations are treated, etc) I have to agree, shit will get bad.

TBH in regards to the lynchings without repercussions, I'd argue that on the smaller scale (individual violent hate crimes with intent to seriously harm or kill) we're already at such a point, somewhat...

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 33 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

we're already at such a point, somewhat

I agree, but they're still putting on a veil of stop asian hate

Soon people will be supporting killings as long as they give some explanation of them potentially being a spy

This rhetoric is already happening in Silicon Valley where a lot of my coworkers have been discussing how they want to report some of their Chinese coworkers to internal security and the FBl because they think they are "CCP" spies sent to infiltrate American big tech with the rational that suspected coworkers say they like Xi and that China is a better place to live than USA

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago

I agree, but they're still putting on a veil of stop asian hate

Are they? Seems to me like they've more of just stopped talking about anti-Asian hate crimes (though at least part of it may be being too keyed in to Asian diasporic spaces and getting cabin fever over it myself).

This rhetoric is already happening in Silicon Valley where a lot of my coworkers have been discussing how they want to report some of their Chinese coworkers to internal security and the FBl because they think they are "CCP" spies sent to infiltrate American big tech with the rational that suspected coworkers say they like Xi and that China is a better place to live than USA

As for that... lea-sweat while I knew that the witchhunts were ongoing in STEM, against community orgs, etc... it's another to hear of the other side of the picture. That it's "a lot" of your coworkers wanting to get in on the action in your experience is actually much worse than what I'd expect, despite having seen a lot of shit where I am...