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[–] luciole@beehaw.org 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I didn't understand how the hell the "pro-life" crowd would cheer for IVF since it entails destroying plenty of embryos. Now I understand: it's the opportunity for some good old fashioned eugenics.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They’re not cheering. Evangelical anti-abortion activists have long targeted IVF and it’s been practically banned in at least one US state.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Some days ago Trump came out saying he loves IVF and he's the "father of IVF" so I assumed the evangelicals are at least OK with it, considering how the Republican are extremely close with them.

[–] rook@awful.systems 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He will say what he thinks needs to be said, and the forced-birthers understand this. They haven’t defeated abortion yet and aren’t going to split their efforts, but they will continue to put pressure on ivf in the meantime. Remember, they weren’t always anti-abortion, and didn’t switch to it overnight! Their current position that life begins at conception necessarily conflicts with current ivf practises, and they’ll say they don’t disapprove of ivf in principle, and they might even have a friend who’s getting ivf, but talk is cheap and they’ll absolutely oppose any legislation that tries to guarantee access to it. Which is precisely what is happening.

[–] maol@awful.systems 4 points 2 weeks ago

All of these measures to "protect life" have the convenient side effect of forcing women back into the kitchen. IVF allows women to have children & careers, or choose to be solo parents. It allows lesbian couples to have kids.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago

Trump has absolutely no principles or beliefs other than those that profit him.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Reminds me of how marriage advice has its roots in white supremacy. (CW: a lot. self harm, SA, abuse)