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How bad do we all think things are likely going to get in the west/imperial cores? How quickly do we think the west's internal spiral to fascism is going to proceed? (hexbear.net)
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Saw this thread, and it really hit a chord with me, as these similar fears tend to constantly weigh on me (for various reasons- being trans, ethnic Chinese, commie, etc).

I think we all (leftists, but also just most minorities) know, shit is bad and will get worse, it's just a question of how bad it will get. People mention it offhand without usually going further into the details, and similarly in other spaces - non-leftist ones as well, for instance Asian diasporic and LGBT spaces in my experience, these fears come up, but ultimately we keep the bulk of our concerns to ourselves. What are our expectations here, for the west? Not just for the US, but the Anglosphere and Europe?

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[โ€“] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

meanwhile religious fundamentalists and all sorts of other militias will be duking it out with the government and each other in the disputed areas

Is it too much to hope that the result could effectively be a great purging of reactionary settler elements (the bulk of these fundies and militias)? Fingers crossed.. though I suspect it'll more likely/definitely be those elements being embraced lovingly by the lib state just as they always are when shit comes down to it.

[โ€“] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

One could hope that might happen. But I imagine if faced between bombing a Christian Dominionist militia that executes non-whites and LGBT people and any BIPOC/queer friendly civil defence organisation that springs up to prevent that, the rump government would probably choose the latter.