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[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Lake Havasu City, Arizona! Fun facts:

The bridge was bought by Robert McCulloch of McCulloch Chainsaws with his vision of a planned community in the Mojave desert.

All of the bricks were numbered, and they were dismantled and reassembled in a specific order. The bridge was built, not over an actual channel, it was built on a peninsula, and the channel was dug out afterwards.

While he was not the highest bidder on the bridge, the British government appreciated how he calculated his bid by accounting for a value of each brick in relation to the number of people living in England at the time.

The man who designed the roads in Disneyland designed the roads in Lake Havasu City. The only straight road is the highway.

The city did not want to pay for the cost of doves at the opening ceremony. They paid for pigeons that were painted white and they became an invasive species in the city.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aren't doves actually just white pigeons anyway?

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Here's the thing. You said a "dove is a pigeon."

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies pigeons, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls pigeons doves. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "pigeon family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Columbidae, which includes things from pigeons to doves to pigeons.

So your reasoning for calling a pigeons a dove is because random people "call the white ones doves?" Let's get gulls and pelicans in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A dove is a dove and a member of the pigeon family. But that's not what you said. You said a dove is a pigeon, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the pigeon family pigeons, which means you'd call doves, pigeons, and other birds pigeons, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

You must be really passionate about pigeons to write seven paragraphs of condescension and a veiled insult because of one comment. Or maybe XKCD was right (again) and it's just an ornithologist thing.

[–] emorytaylor@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh dear, have I gotten myself... got?

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

You are far from the only one in this thread who has been gotten. You might be the only one to get that you got gotted though...

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 11 points 2 months ago

Click the link in the last paragraph for the original.

[–] ElongatedMuskrat@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

old days of reddit and a famous poster called UNIDAN. oh the good ol days. are jackdaws not just crows?

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Well idk they’re both corvids. I’d refer to a ‘carrion crow’ as a ‘regular crow’ - black all over, feathers onto the top of the beak, flat head, about the size of a box of Kleenex. A jackdaw is pretty distinct as far as it goes, smaller, more like the size of a mango. They’re also mainly dark grey, with a darker head. Smaller beak. Jackdaws have white or pale green eyes, crows have black eyes. Jackdaws go ‘Aah Aah Aah’, crows go ‘caw caw caw’.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

History would at least indicate that it's an ornithologist thing.

[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

You magnificent bastard.

I wonder whatever happened to Unidan...

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But I'm not wrong, I'm right. A dove is a pigeon.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

No, a dove is not 'a' pigeon. A dove is in the pigeon family. Your cousin is NOT your brother ... because they're not your brother.

They may have been condescending (quoting a mildly modified copypasta they linked), but the explanation is very clear until the end. Do not insult knowledge with obstinance simply because you were called wrong. That is beyond pathetic and insults knowledge itself.

[–] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 months ago

But rock doves and feral pigeons are the exact same species, Columba livia. QED.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're basically the same thing, though

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Additional fun fact: it's haunted by the ghost of Jack the Ripper.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Ah, this is obviously some strange use of the word ~~"safe"~~ "fact" that I wasn't previously aware of.

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's where I got all my information from and The Hoff makes a surprisingly good frontman for documentaries - if we ever need to replace David Attenborough...

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well Lake Havasu was also the setting for Piranha 3D . Could be a fun crossover.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Piranhas vs Jack the Ripper? I'm in!

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

All narrated by David Attenborough.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Havasu means "air-water" in Turkish. Just thought I'd throw a random wildcard into the mix